Scary Topic

POSTED BY: RiveR6213
UPDATED: Saturday, February 11, 2006 23:05
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RIVER6213

Thursday, February 9, 2006 1:08 AM

Stupid topic I know, but I just want to see if there are other people experiencing the same things that I see going on around me.

You ever met someone who didnt like the race that they were born? I know 2 people myself, and they make me real nervous because it seems like they really don't belong anywhere.

BITTERBIERCE

Thursday, February 9, 2006 1:21 AM

It's not that big a deal. As the great HL Mencken once said, every intelligent man is embarrassed by his own country at some time or another, no matter where he is born. The same thing occurs occassionally to the failings of your own people.

Now don't get me wrong, there is a strange and very modern kind of disease for a certain people that don't like themselves- that's a very outlandish kind of extended self hatred involved with a certain kind of politics, almost like a photo negative of racism. That can't be helped because it's an existential problem on the part of the holder. It's just self-hatred turned outward like a safety-valve.

It's just best to leave them alone. If you have to talk about them, it's best to be be harsh and uncompromising, though: make them know in no uncertain terms you think the idea is disgusting. Tell them you're proud of it (even if you're not part of that people) and not to extend those thoughts to you.

Whatever you do, however, do NOT get drawn into an argument about what's good or bad about any particular people. Politics being what it is, any thought about any race can be a minefield, no matter how honest. Just ignore specifics.

As for not wanting to belong, that's not the problem. You can not belong or want to and still enjoy your own people. It's important you not mistake belonging and self-hatred. Remember, it's a free country. They're allowed freedom to be idiots, and you're allowed to sneer at it.

KIZYR

Thursday, February 9, 2006 4:54 AM

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
Stupid topic I know, but I just want to see if there are other people experiencing the same things that I see going on around me.

You ever met someone who didnt like the race that they were born? I know 2 people myself, and they make me real nervous because it seems like they really don't belong anywhere.

Well, it's sad more than scary. I can't help but feel a bit sorry for someone who's so upset with him or herself like that. Worse yet, the same folks are usually quite harsh and narrow-minded regarding other people of the same race.

I can't say arguing with them'd do any good, since it's usually more of a self-confidence issue. KF

~KF

Lord, I'm walking your way. Let me in, for my feet are sore, my clothes are ragged.
Look in my eyes, Lord, and my sins will play out on them as on a screen. Read them all.
Forgive what you can and send me on my path. I will walk on until you bid me rest.
~Haven Prayer

CHRISMOORHEAD

Thursday, February 9, 2006 5:42 AM

Why's this a scary topic? I freely admit to being a racist myself. But only because I'm a misogynist, too. And a misanthrope.

"Deep in the battlefield covered in blood
Lies an Airborne Ranger dying in the mud
He fought for his country and he died like a man
Though some people back home just wouldn't understand"

RIVER6213

Thursday, February 9, 2006 7:34 AM

With that, I'm sorry that I started this thread. Please let it die, it serves no real purpose.

River

KANESKI

Thursday, February 9, 2006 7:40 AM

Not so much a scary topic as... *look* *blink* *blink* *leave and try to forget*

SAMEERTIA

Thursday, February 9, 2006 7:44 AM

River, sent you a PM.
Now I'll let it die as you request. :)

ASARIAN

Thursday, February 9, 2006 7:55 AM

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
With that, I'm sorry that I started this thread. Please let it die, it serves no real purpose.

River

Hey, River, sent you a PM, too. :) It seemed like the right thing to do.

--
"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam

BITTERBIERCE

Friday, February 10, 2006 3:46 AM

Wow, you're braver than I am. I'm usually the bravest person around when it comes to bucking convention and the silly mores of our times, but even I keep silent about some things in some places. Best not to say certain things when censorious Americans are about. My kudos to you, brave man! I wouldn't be surprised if they kick you off, though. Even claiming irony isn't defense enough anymore.
In fact, I'm kinda surprised you haven't already been censored or banned. Hope they don't, though. Fellow Misanthropes are fun.

"The American, in other words, thinks that the sinner has no rights that any one is bound to respect, and he is prone to mistake an unsupported charge of sinning, provided it be made violently enough, for actual proof and confession" -HL Mencken

CHRISMOORHEAD

Friday, February 10, 2006 6:32 AM

"While we have an open policy concerning messages, please be civil when responding to others."

That's what it says right above the form to post a new message or response. I'm more than happy to take advantage of their offer, and the way I see things, I've done more to earn my rights to free speech than most people anyways.

People are too uptight about this stuff, and if they're going to let my ignorant little comments and jokes about it ruin their day, then that's their problem, not mine. Constitution gives rights to people to do anything that does not put someone else’s life, liberty or property in immediate physical danger. Any laws beyond this are superfluous.

"Deep in the battlefield covered in blood
Lies an Airborne Ranger dying in the mud
He fought for his country and he died like a man
Though some people back home just wouldn't understand"

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