A New Point Of View

POSTED BY: DJL
UPDATED: Friday, February 10, 2006 19:29
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NOSADSEVEN

Wednesday, February 8, 2006 7:32 PM

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Originally posted by DJL:
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Now I know that a lot of fellow converts have taken to multi-buying boxsets, and copies of the film, in the hope of creating an economic interest on the part of the studio(s)to produce a second film or series.
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I'd like to think that most people 'multi-buying' are doing so more to share the Firefly/Serenity experience, than to just throw a few more dollars (or pounds, or what have you) into the pot. I know I feel compelled to share this "near perfection" with those who I think will value it (and some I don't) because it means something to me, and frankly, it's just plain worth sharing.

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Ain't. We. Just.

JAYRO

Wednesday, February 8, 2006 7:33 PM

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Originally posted by V8LTWT:
Hate to say this but DJL does have a point. Sometimes the very best shows only have a very short run. Whilst not in the same league as Firefly but still with a "cult" status & following think about "Fawlty Towers" - they only ever made 12 episodes & I'd bet that you'd only ever say a few words from any episode to set someone off !!

I see what you're getting at.

But Fawlty Towers was a set of self-contained episodes. It didn't have a frustratingly unfinished story arc, multiple characters with as yet unexplored backgrounds, and an entirely new 'verse to explore. And don't forget, rumours still abound of a Fawlty Towers reunion.

'Firefly' and 'Serenity' are like windows. The view is always great, but sometimes you just want to see something new.

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"We're gonna explode? I don't wanna explode!"

CHRISTHECYNIC

Wednesday, February 8, 2006 10:51 PM

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Originally posted by V8LTWT:
I had another think after posting & perhaps I should have pinched the quote from "Blade Runner" - the one about the brightest stars burning the shortest - can't remember the whole of it,

Something like:

The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long; and you have burned so very, very brightly.

STILLFREE

Thursday, February 9, 2006 4:31 AM

When Star Trek was cancelled the fans had a rabid response much like that of the Browncoats. A few great movies were made and a few decades later, The Next Generation went on the air. And it was good. Very good. So I have faith that as long as the show is being made by those who really care about it, it will be good. And if it's not, I'll be dissappointed but no more than I am now.

I'm fairly certain it's never going to reach Star Trek proportions. It's too good. Most people don't like good entertainment. They like feeling their brains atrophy from disuse, it makes them forget they're alive.

AMYLISAI

Thursday, February 9, 2006 4:41 AM

you made me laugh with your Chinese-filled post. Thanks!

Amylisai

MILFORD

Thursday, February 9, 2006 7:15 PM

You do have a point, however you're failing to consider the Joss Whedon variable. He's what makes this show grand, and I have a hard time believing that he would let it drift off into foolishness. To answer your question, NO, thirteen episodes isn't near enough. But more episodes doesn't mean that there will eventually be a Serentiy sequel where they have to go back in time and save the only two humpback whales in existence.

Remember, that but for one trifling exception, the entire universe is made up of others.- Oliver Wendall Holmes

IMALEAF

Thursday, February 9, 2006 7:26 PM

I see your point but I am a Browncoat at heart, I cannot give up. I just can't.

~~We gotta go to the crappy town where I'm a hero~~

JEEJARNG

Thursday, February 9, 2006 9:19 PM

Statistically, most shows die off, or begin a slow decline into a painful writer's hell by 3 seasons. While I like seeing characters evolve over time, I do prefer the format that many UK shows follow. They are signed up for and produced based on a specific amount of shows/years. When it's over, it's over, spinoffs not withstanding. I always find this a better way, no early cancelations,no dissapointments.

Had Firefly had a shot, it may have ended up disasterous, (seriously unlikely) but sadly we won't know. We can always hope for more feature films.

Well they tell you... never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

CHRISTHECYNIC

Thursday, February 9, 2006 10:31 PM

All we really know about what there wasn't is that Joss had planned and started to set up story arcs that wouldn't come into serious play until the second season. That and there was going to be water.

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I think those who are saying that it is better off this way are being more than somewhat heartless. The exact same argument could be used to argue that there if a kid died and you could revive, you're standing right there defibrillator in hand, him you shouldn't. Some day his life will go down the drain, his innocence will be destroyed, why subject him and those who care about him to that?

Who here thinks that is right? I don't.

So here's the next logical question, if it isn't right in a larger case (a human being's life and death) why should it be true on a smaller scale (the life and death of a tv show)?

If an argument doesn't hold water it doesn't hold water, doesn't matter what you are applying it to.

CASSIUS

Friday, February 10, 2006 1:43 PM

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Originally posted by JeeJarng:
Statistically, most shows die off, or begin a slow decline into a painful writer's hell by 3 seasons. While I like seeing characters evolve over time, I do prefer the format that many UK shows follow. They are signed up for and produced based on a specific amount of shows/years. When it's over, it's over, spinoffs not withstanding. I always find this a better way, no early cancelations,no dissapointments.

Also, can I add on the subject of British TV shows, our series' tend only to be 6 episodes long, instead of alot of US series which have over 20.
This means that British shows are alot less likely to be cancelled prematurely (because they're so short to start with), so the various plots through the series tend to be tied-up so there's no loose ends.

Having short series is good for TV execs in 2 ways:

1. If the series is a flop, it doesn't matter, because you won't know it's a flop until at least the 3rd or 4th episode. By then the run is almost at an end anyway.

2. If the series is a success and people love it, they'll be so hungry for more than they would be if there was 25 episodes. It's known as the 'Short and sweet' theory.

ps. Also, with 6 episodes, the writers and cast know the'll get a full run, so there's not as much pressure on them as there is for American writers and cast.

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