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POSTED BY: themantheycalledJames
UPDATED: Wednesday, February 8, 2006 17:13
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Originally posted by proserpine:
Do you know why none of the scifi geeks living in my dorm expressed interest in going to see it with us? Because they had never heard of it.
Well for the love of god get them to see it now.
I'm way ahead of you - just had a marathon Firefly session last Sunday with two of my guy friends, actually. Before that I even got my non-geek roommate interested in the 'verse by showing her the pilot.
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WOW I'm suprised how active this thread got. My Thread about Sheppard being an EX-operative got no love.
yeah, you maybe right Big momma will make alot of cash now but the DVD won't be selling as well as Firefly/Serenity one year from now.
I take offence to the teenager thing because I still am one (for about a week or so) and I still go to see quality films.
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Originally posted by themantheycalledJames:
I take offence to the teenager thing because I still am one (for about a week or so) and I still go to see quality films.
Like I said, no offense intended. Again, there are always exceptions, I know several myself, and you seem to be one.
But honestly, when you were in high school (I'm assuming you're out now), were the majority of your classmates talking about quality films, or the usually generic fare that is targeted at teens?
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Wow. What can I say. So, I have to put up with people who are unable to accept a stereotype of their own culture, and I also have to put up with people insulting my grammar
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For all of you out there who cannot accept being told what other people think of them, it just shows what their government and society has done to them.
mcallen, if you are an American, what is the generally accepted view of Canadians in your country? Could it be this: "
"? You may not believe what that view is, but the North American media (particularly American media) has a great influence on people's opinion.
I DO NOT believe that ALL Americans are stupid, ignorant, slobs, but many are just the same as Canadians; and vice versa. BUT, there is an over-abundance of stupidity in American media, and that stupidity is translated to how the citizens are viewed. Look no further than American Idol or The Simpson's.
I KNOW that The Simpson's is NOT an accurate view of Americans, but rather a select few. The same goes for American Idol, except for the fact that Idol is awful and I do not understand why people watch that crap
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If any of you (mcallen) need more clarification on MY opinion or a generally accepted stereotype of Americans from an outside source, just ask.
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Speaking of the simpsons:
Doctor: Mr. Burns, I'm afraid you are the sickest man in the United States. You have everything.
Mr. Burns: You mean I have pneumonia?
Doctor: Yes.
Mr. Burns: Juvenile diabetes?
Doctor: Yes.
Mr. Burns: Hysterical pregnancy?
Doctor: A little bit, yes. You also have several diseases that have just been discovered - in you.
Mr. Burns: I see.
Ahh, eases the pain.
I believe that woman is planning to shoot me again.
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Speaking of Monty Python:
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
Aye, very passable, that, very passable bit of risotto.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:
Nothing like a good glass of Château de Chasselas, eh, Josiah?
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:
You're right there, Obadiah.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
Who'd have thought thirty year ago we'd all be sittin' here drinking Château de Chasselas, eh?
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
In them days we was glad to have the price of a cup o' tea.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:
A cup o' cold tea.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
Without milk or sugar.
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:
Or tea.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
In a cracked cup, an' all.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
Oh, we never had a cup. We used to have to drink out of a rolled up newspaper.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:
The best we could manage was to suck on a piece of damp cloth.
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:
But you know, we were happy in those days, though we were poor.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
Because we were poor. My old Dad used to say to me, "Money doesn't buy you happiness, son".
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
Aye, 'e was right.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
Aye, 'e was.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
I was happier then and I had nothin'. We used to live in this tiny old house with great big holes in the roof.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:
House! You were lucky to live in a house! We used to live in one room, all twenty-six of us, no furniture, 'alf the floor was missing, and we were all 'uddled together in one corner for fear of falling.
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:
Eh, you were lucky to have a room! We used to have to live in t' corridor!
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
Oh, we used to dream of livin' in a corridor! Would ha' been a palace to us. We used to live in an old water tank on a rubbish tip. We got woke up every morning by having a load of rotting fish dumped all over us! House? Huh.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
Well, when I say 'house' it was only a hole in the ground covered by a sheet of tarpaulin, but it was a house to us.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:
We were evicted from our 'ole in the ground; we 'ad to go and live in a lake.
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:
You were lucky to have a lake! There were a hundred and fifty of us living in t' shoebox in t' middle o' road.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
Cardboard box?
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:
Aye.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
You were lucky. We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down t' mill, fourteen hours a day, week-in week-out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home our Dad would thrash us to sleep wi' his belt.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:
Luxury. We used to have to get out of the lake at six o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of 'ot gravel, work twenty hour day at mill for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would thrash us to sleep with a broken bottle, if we were lucky!
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:
Well, of course, we had it tough. We used to 'ave to get up out of shoebox at twelve o'clock at night and lick road clean wit' tongue. We had two bits of cold gravel, worked twenty-four hours a day at mill for sixpence every four years, and when we got home our Dad would slice us in two wit' bread knife.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night half an hour before I went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our mother would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Hallelujah.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
And you try and tell the young people of today that ..... they won't believe you.
ALL:
They won't!
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Originally posted by 20thCentFoxHater:
Wow. What can I say. So, I have to put up with people who are unable to accept a stereotype of their own culture, and I also have to put up with people insulting my grammar
Yep, if you're going to get up on that soapbox and malign others for being ignorant, you'd better check your own intellectual appearance in the mirror first. Just makes sense, if you want anyone to value your opinion on this issue. Admittedly, I'm a grammar dork (my mom taught English) and it's a knee-jerk reaction for me to want to correct other people's grammar. 99.9% of the time I bite my tongue, but you were kinda asking for it.
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mcallen, if you are an American, what is the generally accepted view of Canadians in your country?
I am an American and I wouldn't dream of thinking I am qualified to expound upon the "generally accepted view" of anything. Not the generally accepted view held by Americans, and certainly not the generally accepted view held by the entire world, as you have done. I, personally, have always held our neighbors to the north in high esteem. There are many political and social issues where I think Canadians stand head and shoulders above us Americans (so much so that my husband and I are often tempted to head over to your side of the border). That said, I'd be willing to bet my last dollar that there are quite a few stupid people in your neck of the woods, as there are in mine, and as there are the world over.
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I DO NOT believe that ALL Americans are stupid, ignorant, slobs, but many are just the same as Canadians; and vice versa. BUT, there is an over-abundance of stupidity in American media, and that stupidity is translated to how the citizens are viewed. Look no further than American Idol or The Simpson's.
Well, thanks for that. Is there an over-abundance of stupidity in American media? Yep. Are there some seriously frightening problems with our current administration? Yep. Do I think there are mistakes being made today that will negatively impact us for many years to come? Yep. Does our entire political system desperately need a complete overhaul so that it's actually possible to elect someone with intellect and reason to run this country? YEP. Do you honestly believe that the thinking people of the U.S. need *you* to tell us that? Not in the slightest.
I'm not really interested in debating politics with anyone here. I can do that whenever I want, in person, with many friends, family members, co-workers, etc. whose opinions I hold in high regard. I don't pretend to be a board moderator of any type, but I think there may be more appropriate locations for your rants on the American people. Quite simply, I'm on these boards (and these particular threads) because I love Firefly and Serenity, because I have a terrible aching need to converse with others who have been impacted by it as much as I have, and because I WANT MORE OF IT!!
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MAL: It's enough.
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okay WAAAAYYY too serious for me now.. I am slipping over to another thread... this one is making my brain hurt...
you all carry on...
Chindi (slippin out the side door for some fresh air)
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Originally posted by 20thCentFoxHater:
For all of you out there who cannot accept being told what other people think of them, it just shows what their government and society has done to them.
You have totally missed the point.
Let's try going at it from the side.
Do you know what people in France think about your people? I bet you don't, and I'm not going to tell you. It's kind of funny though.
My real question is do you care? Now that you know that there is an opinion over there, and I can also tell you that it prevails from the Mediterranean up to (at least) Paris, do you really care?
Are you going to be writing a post or sending me an email saying, "Tell me!"?
I doubt it, but because I did not tell you I get to find out, neat how that works isn't it?
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We know what people think of America, we also know that those who think that of Americans are not really worth caring about.
How is it that there can be a group of 3 million people marching in the street (yes, it is a very wide and long street) saying, more or less, "America Sucks!" and yet not one of the is impolite in any way to any of the Americans so easy to find around them?
It's because in some places on this planet it is possible to gather together three million people who have brains. People who know the difference between country and citizen and the difference between stereotype and reality.
If you were to tell me that someone like that thought bad things about me then and only then would I care, because that kind of a person would need a damn good reason and it would apply to me personally.
You're telling us what people think about Americans. By definition that means that they are shallow people who base their opinions on stereotypes. Unless I'm forced to I'm not going to deal with a person like that, and you telling me that they think this about Americans effects me in no way other than me knowing they think it about the Spanish or any other group:
It tells me that they don't think very much, they believe what they are told without question, and they have trouble making basic distinctions.
How does that effect me?
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Oh, I DO know what Parisians think of Americans and how differently they think think about those in Canada (maybe not Quebec), Australia, etc.
But nobody seems to understand what I am trying to say, and that is: people SHOULD care what others think of them, because one day, they might have to co-operate with them in some way or other.
I'm not saying ALL Americans suck, or what not, but the American government certainly does, along with Canada's new Pro-Bush conservative government.
People construct stereotypes no matter what. You cannot do anything about it either, because stereotypes will always exist, but if it is a negative stereotype, people should try to change it to a more positive viewpoint.
It is more benefitial to make better neighbours by taking fences or barriers DOWN, not saying that you are right and they are wrong and calling them ignorant or shallow.
For example, what is the accepted view by many white North Americans of Muslims? Or what is the accepted view of Mexicans in the southern United States? These views ARE most likey wrong, but many accept them as fact. And living in Canada, and going to university for that matter, has helped many people (and I must admit, myself, even though I have more cultural minorities as friends than of my own culture) debunk these dumb cultural myths, and has made us better for this.
Finally, I think we should get off of this topic, as this IS a Firefly/Serenity site, and we should be talking about that more than this
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"Can't do something smart, do something right".
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