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Funny Cartoon sparks Islamic Jihad !

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Tuesday, February 7, 2006 7:34 AM

I'm talking about some of the reasons why these folks are being antisocial, you are talking about why they aren't being punished for it. I'm not sure that's even the same question.

Folk will only get punished for this if their political master's wish it. I don't suspect that's changed in 1000 years. I think the none enlightened culture explains why folk are not very tolerant of satire, I think mobs can happen anywhere or any time you have young men dumb enough to be lead by opertunists and I think lack of punishment comes down to the fact that the Danes are easy targets.

If you want a riot to show that your country is "hard core" about "insults to Islam" Danes make a great target. Not likely they will retaliate with cruise missile, they dont have the economic influence to hurt your economy or a dirty big army on your border.

So if you are one of these tinpot Arab despots you can show your Pan Arab muslim credentials by letting the mob have it's way --- because the "Arab street" knows if it was allowed to happen then the local hard man authorised it--- you can speak out about the "west" without fear that your presidential palace will be a pile of rubble tomorrow.

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Tuesday, February 7, 2006 2:19 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch2:
I'm talking about some of the reasons why these folks are being antisocial, you are talking about why they aren't being punished for it. I'm not sure that's even the same question.

I’m talking about why it is appropriate to condemn these riots. I’m under no illusion that the Islamic world is actively misinformed by its leaders to hate the West instead of the true source of their oppression, their own governments and religious leaders. However, that’s not what I took from your previous post, but thanks for clarifying.




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Tuesday, February 7, 2006 2:48 PM

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Originally posted by SevenPercent:
It's not the fact that it's a mildly amusing cartoon, it's the fact that it's a picture of the prophet Mohammed, which is a major no-no to their religion (on a level with defacing the Koran). Mohammed is not allowed to be pictured, due to rules about icons and worshipping graven images. This is a huge challenge to their beliefs, a slap in the face, at least as they see it. They were first insulted, then every newspaper in the West kept printing the cartoon, wondering what the fuss was about. Each printing added insult upon insult, in their eyes.



I agree. It may be a cartoon but it is also an insult to their religion. This would be no different than Christians protesting against offensive images of God or Jesus, or if similar was to occur with Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, etc. Those in the Western countries downplay all Muslims as terrorists, but they actually only make up a small percentage of the Worlds Muslim population.

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Tuesday, February 7, 2006 5:15 PM

What I'm saying is that 600 odd years ago at a comparative point in our cultural development we did what our political and religious masters wanted with the same blind trust. We burned people for heracy, witchcraft and any number of supposed religious sins. It took us a long time and a lot of blood to stop killing folk just because the leaders of our religion told us to. With that in mind seems somewhat bizarre to expect Muslims to show our current levels of tolerance and political cynicism when they are still a medieval society.

I understand why they get upset, I think from their point of view their anger is justified and I don't think it fair to say they should "shrug it off." However I doubt many of these folks would be so angry as to take to the streets burning buildings, that has the hallmarks of a staged event and like I said shows the involvement of some Arab governments.

So to sum up, I think they have a right to be upset, they have a right to peacefull protest and to avoid Danish goods, they dont have a right to burn buildings over it.

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Tuesday, February 7, 2006 5:25 PM

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Originally posted by TaiShan:
It may be a cartoon but it is also an insult to their religion. This would be no different than Christians protesting against offensive images of God or Jesus, or if similar was to occur with Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, etc.

A man goes up to another man and asks "Is your mother a whore?" In answer to the question, the first man beats and pummels the asker relentlessly.
On the ground, bloody and broken, the man looks up and asks "Is that a 'yes'?"

If you react as an animal to a cartoon that depicts you as an animal, what does that really say?

"Sticks and stones, love."



Had it Chrisisall

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Tuesday, February 7, 2006 5:26 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch2:
What I'm saying is that 600 odd years ago at a comparative point in our cultural development we did what our political and religious masters wanted with the same blind trust. We burned people for heracy, witchcraft and any number of supposed religious sins. It took us a long time and a lot of blood to stop killing folk just because the leaders of our religion told us to. With that in mind seems somewhat bizarre to expect Muslims to show our current levels of tolerance and political cynicism when they are still a medieval society.

I understand why they get upset, I think from their point of view their anger is justified and I don't think it fair to say they should "shrug it off." However I doubt many of these folks would be so angry as to take to the streets burning buildings, that has the hallmarks of a staged event and like I said shows the involvement of some Arab governments.

So to sum up, I think they have a right to be upset, they have a right to peacefull protest and to avoid Danish goods, they dont have a right to burn buildings over it.




I agreed with everything except the government part. On the contrary, it is entirely possible that the people took to the streets, burning buildings on their own. Just like when riots break out among people, in their fervor anythign can happen.

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Tuesday, February 7, 2006 5:36 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch2:
So to sum up, I think they have a right to be upset, they have a right to peacefull protest and to avoid Danish goods, they dont have a right to burn buildings over it.


They have a right to be upset, but a DUTY to themselves to protest the fringe, violent element in their group or risk being seen as a pack of wild dogs by the West in general.
Or is it okay to use the Muslim religion to precipitate violence and hatred? I mean, every other religion has been used that way, so why should they be different?



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Tuesday, February 7, 2006 5:38 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by TaiShan:
It may be a cartoon but it is also an insult to their religion. This would be no different than Christians protesting against offensive images of God or Jesus, or if similar was to occur with Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, etc.

A man goes up to another man and asks "Is your mother a whore?" In answer to the question, the first man beats and pummels the asker relentlessly.
On the ground, bloody and broken, the man looks up and asks "Is that a 'yes'?"

If you react as an animal to a cartoon that depicts you as an animal, what does that really say?

"Sticks and stones, love."



Had it Chrisisall



What I'm saying is that its no different from religious groups all over the world, whether they're Cathlic, Protestant, Jewish, or whatever. I'm not saying go out and burn things down but I can see why they would be outraged by it.

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Tuesday, February 7, 2006 5:39 PM

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Originally posted by TaiShan:
I agreed with everything except the government part. On the contrary, it is entirely possible that the people took to the streets, burning buildings on their own. Just like when riots break out among people, in their fervor anythign can happen.



The Syrian government actively suppresses Islamic parties, they have shot people demonstrating before. Like I said in an earlier post if something is allowed to happen there it's only because the government condones it.

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Tuesday, February 7, 2006 5:56 PM

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Originally posted by Taishan:
I agreed with everything except the government part. On the contrary, it is entirely possible that the people took to the streets, burning buildings on their own. Just like when riots break out among people, in their fervor anythign can happen.


I have to agree with Fletch. The slow burn and continued problems pretty much say to me that this is being used as a political tool.



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