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Tuesday, February 7, 2006 12:30 AM

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Originally posted by CantonMudder:
In case some of you forgot, if you roll the clock back for just a few hundred years, you will find that Christians were doing a lot of the same things as these modern day Muslims. The killings, the torture, and the murders were all done in the name of Jesus, our lord and savior. Anyone remember the Inquisition? If somehow those Christians back then were provided with modern day weapons and communications, you would have seen a level of killing and murdering by those Christians that would have made the angels weep.

Before you point the finger at the Muslims in this modern day and say how barbaric, cruel, and mean they are, or how immature they are acting, crack open a history book an enlighten yourself to the misery, and suffering the Christians of the past had bestowed to the world as a whole.

I personally believe that the western world operates on a double standard mindset and it makes me want to vomit.

You all make me sick.

No one forgot. This is your imagination. Not a single person in this thread has argued that Medieval Christians were any better. In fact, Fletch2 had a very intelligent comment about exactly this thing.

But what exactly are you suggesting? Medieval Christians who reacted with zealous mob rule in the Medieval world frequently suffered Medieval consequences, such as being burned at the stake, the Iron Maiden or just having their villages burned to the ground, their women raped, their children enslaved, etc, etc. Maybe you should crack open a history book. Because Medieval Christendom was a bloody place for Christians who rioted. Are you suggesting that Muslims who react in a Medieval manner should be treated differently then Medieval Christians? Because that would be a double standard.




Oh, he's so full of manure, that man! We could lay him in the dirt and grow another one just like him.
-- Ruby

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Tuesday, February 7, 2006 1:11 AM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
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Originally posted by CantonMudder:
Before you point the finger at the Muslims in this modern day and say how barbaric, cruel, and mean they are, or how immature they are acting, crack open a history book an enlighten yourself to the misery, and suffering the Christians of the past had bestowed to the world as a whole.



No one forgot. This is your imagination. Not a single person in this thread has argued that Medieval Christians were any better. Maybe you should crack open a history book. Because Medieval Christendom was a bloody place for Christians who rioted. Are you suggesting that Muslims who react in a Medieval manner should be treated differently then Medieval Christians? Because that would be a double standard.


I'm forced to agree with Finn here, act in a Medevil manner, and expect to be treated as such. The idea that we should accept that bull***t now because it happened before by non-Muslims is crap.
And if that's not CantonMudder's point, he needs to get to it in a clearer manner.

No-Felgercarb Chrisisall

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Tuesday, February 7, 2006 2:08 AM

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I don't know why the Muslims are protesting in the streets. It would be best to play the childish, wests game by firing back with the defiling of their religious heros.


so basically what you would find in your average college level art class or every other swanky gallery exhibit? really how they could compete with the stuff put out by the west it self is beyond me?

contonmudder: so your saying we should compare the action's of the Muslim people’s of the world today to the action's of the Christian (or really any body) during the medieval(or when ever) age hundreds of years ago? that a time when (talk of the inquisition aside) more people were executed for stealing bread then were tried for witch craft. that a comen past time was to put a bull or bare(blindfolded) in a pin and set dog's on them. a time of both out and out slavery and serfdom. that this should be the bench mark by which a modern 21 century people should be measured?

Dos that seam odd to you?

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Tuesday, February 7, 2006 2:27 AM

Walkerhound.

Suppose an advanced alien culture arrived on Earth tomorrow. For the sake of argument they are 600 years more advanced. They have completely banned religion, same sex couplings are not just tolerated in their society they are actively encouraged. They view pornography as the greatest artwork. Seperate children from their parents at age 5 and educate them in state run hives.

Are you suggesting that America should give up it's current culture and ape that of these obviously more advanced beings? The Muslim world is Medieval because they haven't gone through the upheavals that the Christian world went through. It's easy for us to condem their culture and for them to condemn ours if you dont share the same shaping experiences.

In our Aliens example there could be valid historical and sociological reasons where their society developed as it did that doesnt mean we'd nescessarily condone or understand the reasons for their seemingly bizarre culture. Only if we had gone through similar events is it likely we would have come to the same place.

We expect the Muslim world to accept the principles of our enlightenment, a cultural event they did not share. We express justified disgust with they way they treat women, but in the West women have had the vote for less than 100 years, equal rights for maybe half that. There are still fringe christian groups with very bad reputations for their treatment of women.

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Tuesday, February 7, 2006 2:31 AM

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Originally posted by SevenPercent:
We're talking about Denmark, and now the Norwegian (and I think Swedish as well) embassies here, not exactly what you'd call the epitomes of foreign aggression.

Ahhh, that area of the world has always been a hotbed of brutality and dictatorship, they just put a nice face on it, and keep selling us thier cheese and their Swiss Army knives, dripping with the blood of the oppressed Muslim workers.

Or, at least, that's how it must seem to some...I guess, right?

Somewhat confused Chrisisall

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Tuesday, February 7, 2006 2:48 AM

Sweden used to be a regional superpower fighting wars as far a field as Poland and Russia. Oh and Swiss army knives come from Switzerland, a little land locked country between Austria, Italy, Germany and France.

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Tuesday, February 7, 2006 2:52 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch2:
We express justified disgust with they way they treat women, but in the West women have had the vote for less than 100 years, equal rights for maybe half that.

Fletch, I was brought up here, in this culture, and I say that I am disgusted with the treatment of women in this culture.
They are indoctrinated by this penis-power society into kowtowing to wear RIDICULOUS cloths at work (High heels/stockings? Save that for the rhythmic mating rituals), accepting sexual abuse that when discovered, is denied by family or silently condoned by society by making the victim feel like she somehow made it happen, having to choose between career and family, effectivly de-valuing motherhood and child-rearing, and getting fifty cents on the professional dollar that men make in comparable jobs.
(Now just IMAGINE my contempt for how Middle Eastern women are treated...)

It's not about religion or culture for me, it's about treating your fellow HUMAN BEING in a manner in which you would like to be treated, i.e. common sense.

Everything else is poorly veiled struggles for power and control.

BTW, venting over and not aimed at you, Fletch.

Momentairly Vehement Chrisisall

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Tuesday, February 7, 2006 2:56 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch2:
Oh and Swiss army knives come from Switzerland, a little land locked country between Austria, Italy, Germany and France.

Yeah, but they're REALLY made in Sweden, y'know.

Okay, I f***ed up concentrating on the (almost) funny.

Chris'bad

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Tuesday, February 7, 2006 3:45 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Okay, I f***ed up concentrating on the (almost) funny.



Heh, I thought that was supposed to be part of the joke. Kind of like South Park had the "Mexican Staring Frog of Southern Sri Lanka", Chrisisall had the "Swiss Army Knife... from Sweden!".

But while we're at it, the Scandinavian countries aren't really famous for their cheese either, at least not inside Europe.

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Tuesday, February 7, 2006 3:46 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch2:
We expect the Muslim world to accept the principles of our enlightenment, a cultural event they did not share. We express justified disgust with they way they treat women, but in the West women have had the vote for less than 100 years, equal rights for maybe half that. There are still fringe christian groups with very bad reputations for their treatment of women.

I don’t expect Muslims to accept the principles of our enlightenment if they don't want to, but I do expect them not to burn down our embassies because someone drew a picture. That has nothing to do with West vs East or their own underdeveloped cultural segments. Because in Medieval Europe you did not burn down someone’s embassy and not face very steep consequences for it. So to suggest that we should tolerate this today based on some hooey multiculturalist relativism is, I think, shortsighted.
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Originally posted by Khyron:
But while we're at it, the Scandinavian countries aren't really famous for their cheese either, at least not inside Europe.

Jarlsberg Cheese!




Oh, he's so full of manure, that man! We could lay him in the dirt and grow another one just like him.
-- Ruby

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