Firefox Or Internet Explorer?

POSTED BY: Haze
UPDATED: Saturday, February 25, 2006 20:03
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CITIZEN

Sunday, February 5, 2006 8:14 PM

I'm also an end user. Think about it .
I've also had to deal with MS tech support and frankly there's not much in the way of Tech or Support there.

Trust me I know this stuff, any real measure of "what is the best browser" and MSIE will lose hands down to anything else out there.

I get the whole stupid user issue, but that's not an issue here. If someone says should I try FF, is it better than IE, then yes, yes you should try it, yes it is better.

End user support for IE is not better, it's non-existent, by comparison there's a good and helpful community for FF. You can't even say IE is easier to use, because it isn't, you open a site in FF, you open a site in IE, pretty much the same thing.

There aren’t any advantages to IE, except that it comes bundled with windows so no extra work in getting it.

MSIE, especially the Mac variant have done more to hamper improved usability of the internet than anything else. Standards are there for a reason, it improves the user experience, and ignoring them, like MSIE does, does NOT help usability.

But yeah, memory issues are another thing, one of many, as is the amateurish memory leaks I've noticed on occasions.

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CLEANER

Sunday, February 5, 2006 11:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:

Trust me I know this stuff, any real measure of "what is the best browser" and MSIE will lose hands down to anything else out there.

Dear Fanboy, I'm sorry but you are what you are. Go back and read my first post and tell me where I mention anything about what is technically the best browser.

I accept your view that FF is more customizable and technically better security because I knew that before this thread. You are unable to get it into your head that what a user does is more important than what they use. I couldn't run IE with no protection if I went to pornsites, or other dodgy sites, and downloaded free software.

But with all fanboys on religous crusades you don't actually stop think about what other people say, your mouth just keeps talking, you might want to see to that.

"If wishes were horses we'd all be eating steak!!!"

CITIZEN

Sunday, February 5, 2006 11:55 PM

Yes Cleaner and by being the only one here throwing around insults and by talking about stuff that has no bearing here in an attempt to start an argument you've certainly gained the higher moral ground.

I didn't insult you, and I didn't try to, until now. I understand end user concerns better than some lowly tech that completed a four week SERCO course and now has the lofty job of defragging the odd hard disk.

You are the one running your mouth off, you've said several times that IE is better because of the user experience, and done nothing to back up your MS fanboy rhetoric. I realise you've had a week long training course in MS love, and I'm afraid I'm not at all impressed. You pick up on one sentence and miss where I disputed what you said about user experience completely. Probably because, as you've consistently shown, and as I suspected all along, you know nothing, and can't dispute what I said on its own merits.

You're acting like a troll, you come to a thread and call most of the people here fanboys and you've been obviously baiting from the get go. I realise you can't do that in the real world because you'll get beaten up, and that frustrates you immensely. You may want to see to that.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
The statistics on sanity are that one out of every four persons is suffering from some sort of mental illness. Think of your three best friends -- if they're okay, then it's you.

CLEANER

Monday, February 6, 2006 3:09 AM

I didn't mention your reply to end user support because again you didn't understand what I posted. If microsoft offered any real enduser support half of the IT industry would be out of business. We are the enduser support not microsoft, the industry has thrived off their stuffups. Your reply again had no relevance to what I posted.

My argument with u has nothing to do with IE vs FF (I really don't care what people use they will always stuff it up) the only thing I have disagreed with you on is your perspective as a programmer vs what end users face.

My frustration is your inablility to read.

But of course if I don't agree with you 100% and declare my love for FireFox (even though I use it) above all others I must be wrong. You are so wise and powerful, I bow to your Epenis

"If wishes were horses we'd all be eating steak!!!"

CITIZEN

Monday, February 6, 2006 9:18 AM

Whatever, you bore me.

I gave you the only reason why IE is better, that being it’s already installed within Windows, so I gather you don’t believe people should use MS Word, considering Wordpad comes preinstalled.

How about you tell me some more how you understand the end user experience so much better than anyone else from the sheet of questions and possible fixes you use to diagnose all problems. It's veeery interesting.

Or maybe you could just call me an FF fanboy again because I prefer to use it because it’s a superior browser and offered my opinion to that fact.

Aren't there any other forums you can troll, because you’re not even a particularly good troll? You need to learn how to troll better as well as how to actually use that magic box of lights before you.

But since you consider you're self 'support' for MS products no wonder many systems are in as poor a state as they are.

Come on, be honest, you really are a cleaner aren’t you?

Oh well I tried to discuss this reasonably, but that was never really on the cards since you just want to spout your mouth off about how much more you know than everyone else. Unfortunately there are people here who do know what they are talking about so your fairly pathetic attempt to become the biggest kid in the sandbox is destined to fail, later sweet-pea.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
The statistics on sanity are that one out of every four persons is suffering from some sort of mental illness. Think of your three best friends -- if they're okay, then it's you.

MRBEN

Monday, February 6, 2006 10:05 AM

Firefox, without a shadow of a doubt.

mrben

"Carpe Aptenodytes"
http://www.jedimoose.org

GUENEVER

Monday, February 6, 2006 7:10 PM

I use IE; my husband uses Firefox. My company is against Firefox; every month or so we get this big email threatening dire security issues with Firefox.

HAZE

Tuesday, February 7, 2006 11:11 AM

Alright, let me ask the question here. Is Firefox actually more secure than IE?

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Who do you suppose is in there?

MRBEN

Tuesday, February 7, 2006 11:20 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Haze:
Alright, let me ask the question here. Is Firefox actually more secure than IE?

Depends on who you ask. But yes, yes it is :)

(In all seriousness, there are a number of reasons that it is both more secure now, but is more likely to continue to be more secure in the long run)

mrben

"Carpe Aptenodytes"
http://www.jedimoose.org

CITIZEN

Tuesday, February 7, 2006 12:43 PM

It's possible that that company is using a security enhanced version of IE, that is one where in house teams have taken it apart and fixed it for use there (this is what has been done where I work). It also maybe because the companies gateway is setup for IE and can't recognise FF? Dunno, could be any number of things but in and of it self, and from a perspective of the versions you'll have access to FF is more secure.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
The statistics on sanity are that one out of every four persons is suffering from some sort of mental illness. Think of your three best friends -- if they're okay, then it's you.

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