Global Warming Network News- AKA- The Polar Water Caps

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Tuesday, February 7, 2006 17:41
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CHRISISALL

Friday, February 3, 2006 12:48 AM

More news about so-called Global Warming.
It's real, people. Man-made/ man-influenced/man-notwithstanding, man is witnessing it (or denying it...)

This Global Thing Is Everywhere!
Weird weather is messing with marine ecosystems along the West Coast
Tens of thousands of starved seabirds washed up on West Coast beaches last spring, and researchers are blaming -- surprise! -- above-normal ocean temperatures and weird weather and wind patterns. Half of the auklets in California's Farallon Islands didn't even try to breed last spring, and those that tried started late. One colony of birds in Washington state fledged 88 chicks instead of the usual 8,000. And it's not just birds that have been suffering as ocean temperatures along the Pacific coast have risen the last three years. Populations of salmon, rockfish, and whales also seemed out of whack, and squid and plankton local to California showed up on Northwest beaches. "There are all these unconnected reports of biological failures," said John McGowan of the Scripps Institution of Oceanography in La Jolla, Calif. Researchers are now working on scientific papers that will document their findings -- and looking warily ahead to see what will happen this coming spring.

straight to the source: Seattle Post-Intelligencer, Robert McClure, 30 Jan 2006

C'mon people, let's show the new Browncoats what a heated(excuse the pun) debate looks like!

Sweating but winterized Chrisisall

AURAPTOR

Friday, February 3, 2006 3:38 AM

Global warming has become like seeing a UFO. Anything that we deem 'unusual', according to our limited understanding, MUST be really ....unusual " It's not what I'm use to, or expect to see, it must be an alien space craft...or C02 damaging our ozone "

Ever the skeptic....

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

DREAMTROVE

Friday, February 3, 2006 3:52 AM

Global warming should not be a partisan debate. The only opposition is the oilpublican branch of my own party. Damn it. Anyway, here's the upside, I think it will be interesting watching the global warming revolution unfold. As we pour Co2 into the atmosphere, we don't threaten life on earth, we feed it. The new evolutions will take hold rapidly, and ferociously. In south america there have been reports of trees growing 10, 15, 20 feet in a year. Old genes, dormant for tens of millions of years awakening to a feeding frenzy, an orgy of evolution. Man, of course, will be squashed like a bug in the process. But a wonder to behold. Bring on the arrogant ignorant human hubris. It's end times for the evolution set.

CITIZEN

Friday, February 3, 2006 9:14 AM

DT:
There ain't much life of Venus.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
The statistics on sanity are that one out of every four persons is suffering from some sort of mental illness. Think of your three best friends -- if they're okay, then it's you.

CHRISISALL

Friday, February 3, 2006 4:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
It's end times for the evolution set.

We'll take over Mars before we let go of life as a species!
So Earth gets a little Jurassic for a while, I'm up for it!

T-Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Friday, February 3, 2006 4:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Global warming has become like seeing a UFO.

You're obviously not taking into account the ones who seen a REAL UFO

Wait untill you've lived a few more years, sonny, the Earth is a-changing, and I'm aware of it.(If it looks like a duck...)

BTW, it has nothing to do with sock-puppet Bush, Evil Clinton, Dark Lord Cheney, or anyone else.
Earth changes climates according to her own schedule, and she votes Independent.

Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Friday, February 3, 2006 6:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
DT:
There ain't much life on Venus.

You been there?
Where's your proof?
Got a link you'd care to share with the rest of us?

Didn't think so.

Chrisisall, Venusian, and proud of it!

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Friday, February 3, 2006 10:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
DT:
There ain't much life of Venus.

I saw a movie once that clearly indicated otherwise.

Global Warming. It's really an interesting topic when you get down to it. If I were to leave my current field I would be inclined to go into atmospheric physics, maybe I get into the Modtran community at AFRL. But I digress.

Unfortunately, the issue of global warming has been commandeered by political entities seeking to leverage the doomsday scenario. These are the advocates of the absurd “Precautionary Principle.” But if you filter out all the bullshit, it is really a pretty interesting topic.

There has been some really interesting work done that associates the rise and fall of civilizations with the occurrence of climatic global minimums. The Medieval Minimum which coincided with the fall of the Western Roman Empire and the advent of the European Dark Ages. The Sporer Minimum began with starvation and plague. Certainly global climatic minimums may have a serious negative impact on civilization. The opposite seems to be true of climatic maximums. The Roman Maximum coincided with the rice of Roman civilization. The Medieval Maximum coincided with the rise of European civilization. And the Modern Maximum coincides with the rise of Western Civilization. The climate waxes and wanes are we are carried along by it.

Maybe some Dr. Evil somewhere will invent a weather changing device which will be in essence a sophisticated heat beam that he calls a “laser.” Until then, though, we may be at the mercy of the climate. When this maximum ends, as history suggests that it will, it would be nice if we will have had spent this time learning how to survive a climatic minimum instead of bickering about the end of the world.

Because plagues and Dark Ages are bad.

Oh, he's so full of manure, that man! We could lay him in the dirt and grow another one just like him.
-- Ruby

CHRISISALL

Saturday, February 4, 2006 3:31 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
When this maximum ends, as history suggests that it will, it would be nice if we will have had spent this time learning how to survive a climatic minimum instead of bickering about the end of the world.

Well, a voice of REASON on a thread like this!

THANK YOU!!!

Thermal Chrisisall

DREAMTROVE

Saturday, February 4, 2006 5:12 AM

Citizen,

Human beings will not survive a temperature increase to the degree of venus. Actually, trees plants, and insects fair quite well at 140 degrees, humans will die of heat exposure with sustained 120 or so. Now, sure, temperature varies world wide, but every china, africa, brazil and the southen US are wiped clean of humans, emissions will be pretty close to zero. Life in the amazon will be much better off without humans, even if it's 130 degrees.

Worse yet, when the water temperature approaches body temperature, human disease gain the ability to survive in the water supply. If you look at a water temperature map of the globe, and then cross it with an epidemic map, you see that the major problem in africa is not derived from native species of life, poverty or genetics, but from water temperature. Several large river systems with constant temperatures of 90-100 degrees. A small shift in global warming would do this to the major river systems of china, and to the lower mississippi river valley.

In short, live on earth, collectively, is at far less risk that humanity. Even if a million or two humans survive, they won't be producing much in the way of pollution.

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