What the heck did they say...

POSTED BY: Randy
UPDATED: Thursday, September 18, 2003 00:32
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LERXST

Saturday, August 23, 2003 4:34 AM

Got this from the transcripts at "Whoa, Good Myth" http://firefly.shriftweb.org/index.shtml

More guards advance. KAYLEE can't deal with it. She freaks and runs back into Serenity. RIVER joins her at the ramp, takes one glance out at the three guards, then picks up Kaylee's abandoned pistol.

RIVER
(chanting)
Can't look. Can't look.
RIVER suddenly stands up and fires three times.

Silence.

KAYLEE stands and peers out at the docking bay. All three guards are now dead. KAYLEE looks at RIVER.

RIVER
(smiling faintly)
No power in the 'verse can stop me.

As for the bible thing, Judas betrayed Jesus for 30 pieces of silver, but he did do it with a kiss. Maybe she meant his 'payday' wasn't going to be what he was expecting.

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ZAPHOD: "Hand me the raprod, Plate Captain."
WAITER: "?"
ZAPHOD: "The phone, waiter, THE PHONE! Sheesh, you guys are so unhip it's a wonder your bums don't fall off."

TALRIUS

Saturday, August 23, 2003 7:04 PM

Intresting thought. One thing though, Judas was paid 30 pieces of silver.

River does say "Can't look. Can't look." the official War Stories script has that as her lines.

I wouldn't rely on transcripts too much. While in this case they were correct, most times closed captioning and listening to things can be deceiving. I've had to correct many of my reference database entries after I saw the offical scripts because of miss-spellings and badly scribed lines found in the so called reliable transcripts.

IDEFIX

Monday, August 25, 2003 12:34 PM

it can be the other way round too. sometimes the official scrips aren't what is really being shot. because sometimes lines get changed by the actors or the director want's something longer or shorter or some such. in most series there is a disprecancy between the script and the real shot EP.

asking the actors what they really said would be the most reliable thing, but sometimes you have no way to ask them or they just can't remember anymore or are simply too busy (which is a good thing) to answer stupid fan questions like that.

Idefix

STILLSHINY

Monday, August 25, 2003 7:56 PM

I know it's "can't look, can't look."

I figure this is a way of helping the audience to remember she did it with her eyes closed.

I also figure she was reminding herself not to look while she took the shots. I can only speculate that she had more confidence in her mathematical figuring, than on her natural eye perception.

Kinda like the luke & the force thing, only not so much and in the opposite direction. No emotion, no logic, just pure science. Kaylee: "She just did the math"

Mal: “See how I'm not punching him? I think I've grown!”

JOHNNYREB

Monday, August 25, 2003 8:16 PM

Yeah, but if the script reads "can't look," and the actress sounds like she is saying, "can't look," why wouldn't you believe that that is what is said?

Viva Firefly!

MANIACNUMBERONE

Tuesday, August 26, 2003 7:53 AM

I always thought that River was closing her eyes during the firing of the gun, not because she didn't trust her eyes, but because she didn't want to see what she was doing. If I were River, and I knew I had the ability to kill off the people who were going to kill me and Kaylee, I would do it, but I probably wouldn't want to see it either. It's just another bad memory.

As for Kaylee's reaction, I think Kaylee is known for getting the wrong idea off of what people do... consider her and Simon. Kaylee considers it to be an insult if you don't take advantage of while she's drunk, so I take her words to the crew regarding things such as why people do the things they do with a bit of a bias.

WHOODAHN

Tuesday, August 26, 2003 2:02 PM

Quote:
"A copper for a kiss."
Don't ask me what she meant by it but that's what she said.

Since she said this right after he woke up, I assumed she had been dreaming. She may have been dreaming about her childhood and it may have been a game she played with her father.

JOHNNYREB

Tuesday, August 26, 2003 2:21 PM

Or it could have been River's usual crazy-talk.

Viva Firefly!

WHOODAHN

Tuesday, August 26, 2003 2:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JOHNNYREB:
Or it could have been River's usual crazy-talk.

When I first watched each episode I assumed River's crazy talk was just..well..crazy talk. Now, like a lot of others, I'm reading between the lines. Her crazy talk may hold a key to a door we haven't found yet.

I watched Jaynetown last night. I still think one of the best scenes is when she walks in on Book and says "I took these out of the symbol and they turned to paper" then she looks at his hair and screams. The look on her face was fantastic!

When she is hiding from him it sounds like she is calculating the weight of his hair and fears his head is in danger of collapsing.

Speaking of Books Bible, does he use a King James version or has it changed in 500 years?

"Just keep walking preacher man" - River Tam

LINDLEY

Thursday, September 4, 2003 11:07 AM

The only lines I've always had to struggle to understand are when River is talking to Badger in "Shindig".

I think I've figured out most of it by now, though.

As for "A copper for a kiss".....I think that's pretty clearly a reference to Judas betraying Jesus with a kiss.

It just wasn't as clear-cut as some refs are. Like in B5, when Garibaldi is going to betray Sheridan, he says, "I think the last guy got 30 pieces of silver for the same job."

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