Oscar Spurns Serenity
POSTED BY: DonCoat
UPDATED: Friday, February 3, 2006 02:14
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Originally posted by ChrisPV:
... I am firmly convinced that Joss could give
us some damn fine Serenity shininess with 28 bucks and tin cans on wires for ships. His writing is that good.
Hm, I dunno about that. Just read somewhere that
Nathan Fillion charges $50. Course that may have
been before Serenity came out.
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Originally posted by ThePistonEngine:Quote:
Originally posted by SameErtia:
Next time, maybe we should do it ourselves. :D
(Notice I don't say "If there's a 'next time'".)
IF there's a next time. Perhaps we will be blessed with a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th season, instead of movie sequals. :-D
Oh! PistonEngine! THAT is an "IF" I can get behind!
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Originally posted by ChrisPV:
I take some solace in that POS Episode III only getting one nod.
I'm surprised it wasn't nominated for "best animated movie", or is that one of next year's new categories?
Steve
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Originally posted by zoid:
And it was -- and still is, thanks to this good news -- my strict intention to avoid the TV the entire night of the awards. Two words: "Bareback Mountain". ...or was that "Broked*ck Mountain"? Oh, well. Y'all know the one I'm talking about. The tender, loving story of two lonesome cowpokes who find each other and stop poking... cows.
What's a brokeduck?
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I know I have a separate thread devoted to this, but since I only found out about this thread now, I figured I might as well post it here and try to give a silver lining to this dark cloud.
Joss Whedon may have written and directed the movie. But the producer of the film (basically the guy that brought everyone that made SERENITY the movie it is together in one place) is Barry Mendel. Even though he's not as well known as say Jerry Bruckheimer, Joel Silver or Scott Rudin, he's produced some high quality (RUSHMORE, THE ROYAL TENENBAUMS) and big grossing (THE SIXTH SENSE, UNBREAKABLE) films.
And this morning, along with Steven Spielberg and Kathleen Kennedy, he got nominated for the Best Picture Oscar for co-producing MUNICH, another really powerful and great film.
So while it may not be SERENITY officially, it is a sort of nomination be default. So if there's one flick to cheer for at the Oscars, it's MUNICH, although I have to admit that I wouldn't mind seeing BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN win 8 for 8.
I dunno. Maybe if Joss had Jayne or Mal sodomize Simon, maybe it would increase the films chances for Best Picture. Wouldn have at least brought more publicity.
Unlike others, I'm not one of those "I hate the AMPAS, they never nominate anything good" negative types. I'm a huge movie geek, so for me, the Oscars are my SuperBowl. And I like playing the Oscar game of who will win and stuff. Now normally, I have some grievances with the nomations that come out every year, but this year, I was actually satisfied with a lot of the nominees. Of the Best Picture noms, I've seen three out of five, and I think all five of them are deserving (With nominations, I can finally see GOOD NIGHT, AND GOOD LUCK and CAPOTE without having to drive all the way to Toronto from Regina). I was happy to see that CORPSE BRIDE is up for Best Animated Feature, and the inclusion of ENRON: THE SMARTEST GUYS IN THE ROOM makes up for the exclusion of GRIZZLY MAN. While I wouldn't mind to have seen Joan Allen up for her role in UPSIDE OF ANGER, I'm OK with Reese as June Carter from WALK THE LINE up (and I'm not even a Reese fan).
And I know that genre pics only get nominated in the bigger categories if they gross like $300 million domestically. And while they sometimes give out awards to films that don't deserve it, once in a while they get it right.
In 00, they gave AMERICAN BEAUTY, one of the few films that lived up to it's title on more than one level, the Oscar for Best Picture. That'll forever put them in my good books.
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"YES!!!I'm a man posessed by many demons....Polite demons that would open the door for a lady carrying too many parcels...BUT DEMONS NONETHELESS!!!! Yes. I have walked along the path of evil many times, it's a twisting, curving path that..actually leads to a charming plot garden, BUT BEYOND THAT EVIL!!!"
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The "academy" = the people who cut up River's brain.
I believe that's all that needs to be said.
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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.
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All I have to say is 
. I never have watched the Oscars, and this doesn't make me want to start. There might still be hope with the MTV Movie Awards. 
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Hand to my heart, I got nothing against gays, male or female
yea, okay. I believe you.
Gelassenheit means Serenity
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The way I see it, Serenity really never had a chance. The Oscars are concerned with noting excellent acheivement within certain categories. To me, the best acheivement of the BDM was in telling a great and exciting story about people who seem completely real and flawed, and doing it with style. It was a smart crowd-pleaser with a lot of depth to it. You can't do that without good acting and good direction and above all good writing, but they don't have an actual category for it.
In addition, it has been noted by anybody with eyes, ears and a functional memory that the films that garner Oscar nods follow rather predictable patterns. The Oscars never really seem to know what to do with movies that are a little weird. By weird I don't mean unconventional, because Serenity had a lot of things that were normal: action, comedy, etc. And I don't mean weird in the way a lot of independent films are weird.
But... Serenity was a movie set in another galaxy in which the characters lived on a spaceship and spoke like they should be in a John Wayne flick. By Oscar standards, it was weird. Genre films just generally aren't an easy sell. I'm of the firm belief that the Lord of the Rings never would have won a damn thing if they hadn't been such a phenomenon. It's not because Oscar voters hate fantasy. It's just that genre films aren't what they look at.
It's a fact I've accepted, and the reason why I generally don't watch the Oscars — the films they look at often bore me, despite how good the acting may be, or the art direction, or the special effects. They just fail to make me care all that much. Serenity had a sort of frenetic, excited, wonderful quality that made you care about the story, the people and where their lives were going. But again, no category for that.
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Let's face it, Hollywood is a good ol' boy system. If you ain't in the club (George Lucas), have a liberal agenda (Brokeback Mountain), or create a huge grossing phenomenum (Lord of the Rings), you ain't getting a nomination, much less an award.
It doesn't matter how GOOD the movie is, or how well it does in any of the particular catagories.
Half of me is glad Serenity and Joss don't have to deal with the headache. A full 150% of me is hugely disapointed, because the publicity would have been great. That's 200% of me, and I can come up with more.
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