Ariel and Objects in space... is the bounty hunter foretold?

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DC4BS

Monday, January 30, 2006 11:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Snowcat:
"We're going backwards...up the down slide."

But I'm still confused about the "Your toes are in the sand"....I kinda expacted her to say "you've got your HEAD in the sand".

You may have the answer right there... "We're going backwords," "You've got your toes in the sand."

2 possible meanings, the inverse of head in the sand OR possibly using the feet to slow down by draging them in the sand as brakes.

My dad (a lifeguard when he was younger) rescued my sister and her friend from a rip-current off Puerto Rico once by doing that.

He swam out to them, grabbed each one by a foot, held his breath and went down to drag his toes in the bottom during each push of water away from shore. Came up for air and to ride the crest of each incomming wave. They eventualy made it to shore safely. My sister said, it was the only time she ever saw our father cry. He broke down and sobbed once they made it back to shore and he knew everyone was OK. She didn't realise the danger they had really been in till then.

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BWARE42

Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:40 AM

I always thought all of River's ramblings in Ariel were about Jayne specifically. He's a mercenary and the only thing he seems to care about is cashy money.

The references to Christmas and looking into the closet always seemed to be the reason that Jayne is who he is. He was poor and didn't get much as a child, so now everything comes down to money.

NYWOE

Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:54 AM

I don't think there's a connection between those two lines, but you never know...

Also, don't forget what Mal says when he wakes up at the end of "Out of Gas": Is it Christmas? :)

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AERIN

Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:21 AM

Hmmm, seems Joss likes to link Christmas references with betrayal. River mentions it in Ariel as Jayne turns them in, Mal asks if it's Christmas after YoSaffBrig dopes him in Our Mrs Reynolds, and Jubal mentions presents as he gets Kaylee to betray River's whereabouts. I think the link must be a Joss thing, but I don't get why.

I could believe River mentioning Christmas in reference to both Jayne and Jubal. Jubal found them because Jayne tipped off the Feds on Ariel. I don't think River's abilities have ever been defined, so she could be reading the future (and, she can kill you with her brain, LOL). Or Jubal could have arrived on Ariel just as they were leaving and River could have sensed him more directly. Ah, the worlds of Joss.

Jayne: I once hit a guy in the neck from 500 yards with a bent scope. Don't that count upstairs?
Book: Oh, it'll be taken into consideration.
Jayne: You made that sound kind of ominous.

ANDRE83

Tuesday, January 31, 2006 3:32 PM

I think you are reading to much in to it. River cant see the future, she only reads minds.

Dont think there is a connection there.

Jayne: All those years of preacher training, getting knocked out by one bounty hunter
Book: Oh, dont get me wrong. I gave him a hell of a fight
Jayne: Epic i'm guessing

ALICE

Sunday, June 18, 2017 11:30 AM

I think that When River tells Jayne "You've got your toes in the sand", she is giving him a warning.

Here's my logic:
a. putting your toes in the sand is a calm, leisurely activity probably reserved only for the rich in the society of this show.
b. Jayne believes he is about to become very rich, a candidate for such an activity
c. River understands peoples' mental states
d. River knows that Jayne is "counting his ducks before they hatch" so to speak.
e. Translation: You've got your toes in the sand - you're counting your ducks before they hatch, you're thinking that you've already got your money in the bag, that you already have what you want, but you've got your head in the clouds, your toes in that sand you want so badly.

I think River knows that Jayne has betrayed them, and she also knows that Jayne will not get his money.
His mind is elsewhere
He's counting on that money
His toes are in the sand

Kaylee is cool

AURAPTOR

Sunday, June 18, 2017 6:59 PM

I hadn't caught those, but the imagery of Jubal coming down the ladder did sort of remind me of Santa coming down from the chimney. I mean, the shoot to the airlock is sort of chimney like... but yeah, nice catch.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, June 20, 2017 4:48 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Andre83:
I think you are reading to much in to it. River cant see the future, she only reads minds.

I must disagree.
Not that you are around anymore, tho.

REAVERFAN

Tuesday, June 20, 2017 11:49 PM

Interesting.

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