Subtle yet interesting show observations -- post yours

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VOSHEXETER

Monday, January 30, 2006 5:18 AM

That's subtle.

I can't compete with that. But, I just watched the pilot and i was wondering about JW's comments about Kaylee being a depiction of sexuality, warmth, etc...Am I making too much of the fact then, that she is ironically shot in the abdomen in the pilot. Did any one wonder, for example, if she could still bear children after this incident? I'm reaching, I know. I was just so sad.

"...fer stew, sure...." Jayne

voshExeter

ETHAN

Monday, January 30, 2006 5:37 AM

In Objects in Space when Early is kickin the crap out of Simon, and there is the brief cut to Jayne sleeping in his bunk. He has his 'is he going to be a hero-oh no he's just going to be Jayne' moment...you can see there is a huge honkin drool puddle on his pillow. Talk about adding a little something extra to a scene!

SHEWCHUK

Monday, January 30, 2006 6:25 AM

In Serenity when Simon is cleaning River's wounds when she is handcuffed in the pantry river says something to the effect of "old men with no blood on their hands, yet they're in an ocean of it." I think shes refering to the parliament and their decision that led to the graveyard of Miranda.

Though and Action when harmonized free each from the other

RUXTON

Monday, January 30, 2006 6:34 AM

Nandifan,
Oddly, that shot of Morena is one of the few of her that I've always really liked, but didn't quite know why. Subtle, eh?

One of my favorite scenes for subtlety is when Mal talks with the crew in the movie about his belief. He is backlit, like he is surrounded by a holy light, invisible to viewers behind the camera (us), as his belief floods back to him.

THEONETRUEBIX

Monday, January 30, 2006 7:12 AM

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Originally posted by Shewchuk:
In Serenity when Simon is cleaning River's wounds when she is handcuffed in the pantry river says something to the effect of "old men with no blood on their hands, yet they're in an ocean of it." I think shes refering to the parliament and their decision that led to the graveyard of Miranda.

That's really sort of another example of "you're supposed to notice this" I think, and not so much something subtle.

NANDIFAN

Monday, January 30, 2006 4:39 PM

I had no so much an observation, but a question about an observation.

Does Jayne ever recite Chinese verses? I know he curses in Chinese, but has he ever uttered one of the complex phrases JW assigns everyone else?

Please correct if I am wrong, 'cause its sort of driving me crazy trying to remember!

(Hopefully soon I will be able to go through all the episodes myself, but land me a hand till then!)

Thanks

"If they've got guns or brains at all."
"They've got guns."

CAPTAINSGAL

Monday, January 30, 2006 5:55 PM

I know I'm a little dense, because all of you probably noticed this months ago, but it has to do with Firefly's opening credits, theme. 2/3's of the way into the theme, they a show a picture of the Alliance, followed by Simon, River and Shepard.
Obviously, all three have a connection with the Feds, further instilling my belief that Shepard was once an Alliance officer or Operative.

I wish Joss would have had more time to explain Shepard's background, I'm thinking Shepard became a priest to deal with the guilt of his Alliance past.

"A government is a body of people usually, notably, ungoverned." - Shepard quoting the Captain.

ANIMALM0THER

Monday, January 30, 2006 9:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by CaptainsGal:
2/3's of the way into the theme, they a show a picture of the Alliance, followed by Simon, River and Shepard.
Obviously, all three have a connection with the Feds, further instilling my belief that Shepard was once an Alliance officer.

Huh, never really picked up on the Alliance-connection part of that in the intro, just always thought that since they were the 3 that Serenity picked up during the pilot and not originally fundemental crew members they were left for the end of the intro.

All of these observations are pretty intrigueing. You can be sure I will be pointing these things out to my friends next time we watch them.

I'll be in my bunk.

KIZYR

Monday, January 30, 2006 9:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Nandifan:
I have a Serenity observation.

In the very last scene with Inara, when she tells Mal she doesn't know if she wants to leave, she has absolutely no makeup on. I have to go back through the shows, but I think that is the first time she has ever been on with no makeup. It was like she was giving up being a Companion. Again, I have to double check, and if I am wrong, please let me know.

You know... I don't know a single guy who would've ever picked up on that. Hell I think Morena looks lovely either way, so I doubt I'd've ever noticed that unless someone pointed it out.

Is it really that clear when a girl is or isn't wearing makeup? Half the time I can't tell. Then again most women I know personally make a point to apply makeup in subtle ways so it doesn't really look like they've applied anything. KF

~KF

Lord, I'm walking your way. Let me in, for my feet are sore, my clothes are ragged.
Look in my eyes, Lord, and my sins will play out on them as on a screen. Read them all.
Forgive what you can and send me on my path. I will walk on until you bid me rest.
~Haven Prayer

NANDIFAN

Monday, January 30, 2006 10:29 PM

Is it really that clear when a girl is or isn't wearing makeup? Half the time I can't tell. Then again most women I know personally make a point to apply makeup in subtle ways so it doesn't really look like they've applied anything. KF

It's not really all that clear, since it took me about 5 times of watching to notice, and I think
the only reason I noticed was because I had watched a marathon the whole day before I watched the movie, but just something about it made me realize she wasn't in full Companion mode, that she looked natural.

Yes, the point of girl makeup is to not look like we have makeup on. It is very complicated, and girls are born with an innate knowledge of it. As Mal says, "We are a mystery!"

"If they've got guns or brains at all."
"They've got guns."

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