Tim Minear/Greg Edmonson Questions

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ETHAN

Saturday, January 28, 2006 1:34 AM

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Originally posted by serena777:
re: Tim Minnear

I truly hope there isn't "bad Blood" between the two -- they were great on this

maybe Joss had to the movie to assuage his ego

afterall he was the creator -- and the evil,
bad, fox network - called His baby ugly

(Tim helped birth it - but it was Joss's "baby)

I think he actually was busy with his own projects. There's no bad blood between Tim and Joss. I even read somwhere Tim wrote notes for Serenity.

SERGEANTX

Saturday, January 28, 2006 2:54 AM

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Originally posted by CBY:
I think the respect for Edmonson as a person is clowding the judgement of many browncoats. If his name would be written on the CD instead of Newman's, many browncoats would suddenly change their minds.

I can honestly say that isn't the case for me. Edmonson seems like a fine fellow, but its his music that I respect and enjoy. If there's anything clouding pure objective judgement for me, it would be my taste for the western style music that Edmonson incorporated into the series. Serenity's soundtrack was a definite step away from the ambling laid back feel of the Firefly score.

Taken purely on its own merits, I might have enjoyed the soundtrack a litte more than I did. But knowing how cool it could be, ala Firefly, the movie music was disappointing. I feel the same way about several of the changes that were made to mainstream Firefly for a wider audience. I just seemed to leave a lot of the charm behind.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

CBY

Saturday, January 28, 2006 8:58 AM

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
Serenity's soundtrack was a definite step away from the ambling laid back feel of the Firefly score.

Frankly, the whole movie was. For me they are two different concepts. In other words: It was no "Firefly - the movie" so it had no "Firefly - the movie" score.

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GUTSC1

Sunday, January 29, 2006 5:02 AM

Bud,

I'd say you hit the nail right on the head! The Serenity had all kinds of potential.

Did any of you notice the horns in there? Very different from Joss's original vision. Remember, Horns were suppose to be for the Alliance.

I sure hope that when our baby flys again the whole team can come back. Joss, Tim, Greg, Chris, the all of the original cast and crew!

Ah,yes... this is a wonderfull dream.

Mal: Jayne, just how many weapons you plan on taking? You only got the two arms.
Jayne: I just get excitable as to choice. Like to keep my options open.
Mal: I don’t plan on any shooting taking place during this job.
Jayne: Yeah, well what you plan and what takes place ain’t ever exactly been similar.
Mal: No grenades.

GUTSC1

Sunday, January 29, 2006 5:02 AM

Damn it; I double tapped. Sorry guys

NELLIE

Sunday, January 29, 2006 5:18 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by CBY:
I think the respect for Edmonson as a person is clouding the judgement of many browncoats. If his name would be written on the CD instead of Newman's, many browncoats would suddenly change their minds.

Sorry to disagree with most of you, but I think CBY may be right about this.

I loved the soundtrack of Serenity, and Firefly, too---Edmonson & Newman are both great composers.

I think people tend to neglect the music at the end of movies while the credits are running. I sometimes play the credits of films over & over again just to hear the music---(it must drive the neighbours crazy).

SERGEANTX

Sunday, January 29, 2006 6:49 AM

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Originally posted by Nellie:
I loved the soundtrack of Serenity, and Firefly, too---Edmonson & Newman are both great composers.

You're missing the point. While I certainly disagree with you about the relative quality of the two composers, it's just a matter of taste and personal preference - if you like it that's great. But regardless of the quality of the composing, the style and tone is what's changed. Edmonson's music for the series was so special because he went for something unusual, the strings and the folksy country sound made for a really unique feel, especially for science fiction. It helped make the show a soulful, intimate experience. The more common 'movie-soundrack' music done for Serenity was unremarkable and impersonal, even if it was good.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

SERGEANTX

Sunday, January 29, 2006 6:51 AM

Doh... the double post button is working tonight.

NELLIE

Sunday, January 29, 2006 8:22 AM

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
the style and tone is what's changed.

Well, you're right, SergeantX, but is it necessarily bad to change now & then? I thought Joss intended the movie to be a different thing than the series anyway, and the movie really does have a more impersonal feel to it, as you say. Maybe they will bring back Edmonson for the next movie and series!

By the way, did you hear Newman's score for "Ice Age"? I loved that, too, but I guess I'm getting off the subject here...sorry!

YT

Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by CBY:
I think the respect for Edmonson as a person is clowding the judgement of many browncoats. If his name would be written on the CD instead of Newman's, many browncoats would suddenly change their minds.

There is no mind-changing. The movie score sucked. It was just a routine Sci-Fi action-adventure score.

When Joss fired the original composer (forgotten his name), I had high hopes. But the results make me wonder just how bad the other guy could have been. Certainly the explanation he gave on his web-site (he was used to the longer musical cues more typical of movies, but Joss wanted a different musical element for every shot that introduced a new visual element, & there were hundreds of those elements) doesn't hold up. Does anyone remember a lot of different musical cues in the movie?

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