Star Wars, King Kong, Matrix....... Animated Films or Special FX Movies?

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THECOLLECTOR

Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:07 PM

Well would you call "Clash of the Titans" an animated movie? There was a tons of claymation in the movie.

THESOMNAMBULIST

Thursday, January 26, 2006 9:11 PM

CBY

I'm a little sad of that fact, although I'm optimistic that the drawn style will prevail. Just CGI needs to flex its mucles a little bit first.

Interesting your thoughts on Anime - I'd never really considered it in those terms. I must admit to not knowing a great deal about the procedure behind them. I'll have to investigate.

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Thursday, January 26, 2006 9:15 PM

Hi TheCollector

Personally I wouldn't call Jason and the Argonauts or Clash of the Titans animated films - but I guess given the lack of clear boundaries it could be so. However what the Harryhausen films did was to create a character and animate that character within a 'lifelike' environment. Where as King Kong is basically animation with 'live' characters within the film...

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Thursday, January 26, 2006 9:18 PM

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Good thread this Somn even though its just you, I and CBY posting .LOL.

Yes very splendid film is Akira. I'm not a big Manga fan but I do have Akira and Ghost in the Shell in my collection. Great films. The Matrix owes alot to Ghost in the Shell.

Thanks.

Yeah the anime influence is strong with the Matrix films. I actually feel the first Matrix perhaps made the blend of live action and animation better than any. It felt true to the story being told. Much as TRON did in fact.

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CBY

Thursday, January 26, 2006 9:49 PM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:

Interesting your thoughts on Anime - I'd never really considered it in those terms. I must admit to not knowing a great deal about the procedure behind them. I'll have to investigate.

Well, it's a simple observation: The sheer amount of Anime paired with the technically simple animation. For instance, movement is never smooth (speaking of typical tv show Anime here), often they are only using a couple of frames and/or loop them.

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J6NGO1977

Friday, January 27, 2006 12:04 AM

yep just us 3 guys :D
Jason of the argonauts and clash of the titans........fantastic

CBY

Saturday, January 28, 2006 9:34 AM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
I actually feel the first Matrix perhaps made the blend of live action and animation better than any. It felt true to the story being told. Much as TRON did in fact.

I think Matrix had the perfect balance. The famous rotating camera for instance was shot "by hand" so to say. And they had an actual story!

I'd say the same goes for LOTR. They could have used much more cgi but they didn't. There were many poor people in rubber suits (there you go Georgie boy).

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J6NGO1977

Saturday, January 28, 2006 11:05 AM

Yeh The Matrix is my 2nd fave movie behind Star Wars. The story just mirrored todays society and made you think. Before the matrix I used to relate to work as 'The best of both worlds' from ST:TNG. I am Borg resistance is futile etc (just to digress. Best of both worlds 1 of the finest ST:TNG episodes ever aired). But that was a personal thing as not many people are sci:Fi geeks. However now so many people say to me 'I feel like Neo plugging into the Matrix'.

Nothing wrong with rubber suits. Aliens was filmed with 6 guys in rubber suits and no CGI. Not 1 person on this site would say that Aliens is a bad movie. Outstanding piece of cinema which every time I watch I get the same tingle up my spine. '1 express elevator going to hell. Going down!'. fantastic!. John Carpenters The Thing. All prostetics and no CGI. Yes exactly LOTR. People dressed like orcs in rubber suits. I could go on.

CGI will get more realistic however people always like a good story. Movies have become like 'POP music' however people will always prefer a good song.

THESOMNAMBULIST

Saturday, January 28, 2006 7:14 PM

soz j6ngo1977. I'm afraid I'm not a big fan of Aliens but you're right it aint a bad movie :) It was a fair old action flick, and Stan Winstons creature work was great!

(Just the ethos of the 'Alien' was kinda lost under a barrage of lame army speak and kick-ass characters, just firing off bullets.) It just wasn't for me.

The Thing! Wonderful. Jaw dropping special effects!!!

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CBY

Saturday, January 28, 2006 8:25 PM

Another bad example of CGI is Sin City. I don't care if this fits to the comic, it is completely artificial, made with actors in a green painted studio. I think Sin City is - from a visual standpoint - a chunk of coal.

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