Whedon's guy responds to Firefly Season 2.com reports on SCI FI Wire
POSTED BY: ripley
UPDATED: Sunday, February 12, 2006 19:29
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Originally posted by SimonF:
Firefly is dead. Ceased to be when Fox cancelled it.
Ouch that hurt.
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Mal: Define Interesting
Wash: Oh god, Oh god, We're all gonna die?
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Originally posted by metsrulein2k:
I've been roaming in these boards for a few months now and I've never really felt the need to respond. Until now.
What are you guys thinking? Here is a guy who has asked for nothing except "did you buy firefly" and is chasing a dream we all have and you guys are killing him for it. You're acting like the Alliance and he's trying to be an independant. Let the guy chase his dream, if he strikes lightning we all get what we wanted, if you all bash him sight unseen, nobody will get anything. I don't know who the guy is but it seems as if hes swinging for the fences on this one, and nobody wants to put him at the plate.
Why bash a guy for trying? It makes no sense.
Keep on flying.
Here is what I am thinking.... and in dealings with people it makes perfect sense.
To be an independent in this industry doesn’t get you 40 mil quality movies. This is what we want and what we are used to. A long paradigm shift will have to occur. (its coming)
I filled in the info early on. A lot of posts lately are focusing on what type of info. he is looking for, how easy it is to fill in, and what does it hurt to fill it in. I have no qualms about any of that. I still do not support it now.
For a few days Ace was on the forums posting and answering questions. Amped my interest. If u could ask a question to someone who says they may be able bring Firefly back wouldn’t you? So a lot of us did. Most were polite and direct. The answers I got were, at best, generalized statements I already knew.
There have been few “outright slams” directed towards ACE (here anyway), though there have been many opinions that do not gel with his idea. His initial replies to our queries were not so nice. ( I am sure Bix can back me on this one, I know, others too ) Then he edited them. His answers on some of the questions changed as well. So, it is a matter of cred. With still a great chance of “Firefly” (sorry, I mean “Mal’s SoapBox Derby” for u article parsers) returning within the regular TV/movie framework, why would we want him to get the rights. Besides, Fox is making a lot of dough on DVD sales.
And speaking of cred…. I went as far as I am able to dig into this. Here… http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=7&t=17108#238892
I was more turned off at the answers and his approach to this venture than I was at the idea. i.e. did not contact Joss before going public. (yes, it is still easy to fill in. and u cannot be harmed)
U gonna be smart here Riva?!?
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Originally posted by SimonF:
Firefly is dead. Ceased to be when Fox cancelled it. Joss, if he feels like, will carry on the Serenity 'Verse (assuming circumstances allow it). So I'm surprised Mr Underhill isn't talking to Universal instead of Fox.
Universal doesn't have TV rights as far as we know to make new episodes. They have the right to make 2 more movies and through Sci-Fi play the existing episodes.
Fox retains the rights to the TV show.
Andrew
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I think what Joss is saying that he'd probably want to do a TV series perhaps based on some side characters or maybe a single character on the series and expand their character.
Perhaps Zoe, Mal or Jayne as a sheriff on a small planet. Gunsmoke: The Future...
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Originally posted by MalNourished:
Just to clarify the debate above (read: beat a dead horse), here's another Whedon quote from the USA Today article:
"The best-case scenario is that the DVD is such a spectacular, monster hit that we get to make another movie. Then we get to make another movie. After three movies, we're all very tired. After Serenity: Revolutions, we feel like we've played it out. And then we make another series."
There it is in Joss' own words. He is completely open to doing another series set in the 'verse.
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Andrew, What's your take on Ace Underhill? You got in a little hot water yourself several week ago and I was sympathetic to your cause.
Personally, I think we make as much noise as we can. I wish there were 10 Ace Underhills trying to acquire the rights. This creates a press buzz and keeps you in the news. It also creates demand. Well maybe I'm beating drum too loud....anyway Andrew?
Mal: "Oh! That was bracing. They don't like it when you shoot at them. I worked that out myself."
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PDcharles
All right. I thought people were bashing the very IDEA of someone trying to make this work I didn't know they were bashing the person. But he's already said that if Joss and the whole crew isn't involved, he wouldnt do it. Fox is the worst place on earth for the rights to firefly to be. Family Guy had to sell MILLIONS before they wisened up and brought it back, and Firefly, while doing great in the 500,000 range, would still have to almost double that for Fox to notice anything. I was just puzzled that people were so resistent to the idea when it first came out. I'd rather have a dead mouse hold the rights to this show than Fox, so at least this guy has a pulse and more importantly a passion for what he's doing.
Wouldn't it be nice for one of the exec's at Fox to EVER mention Firefly sales or the idea of bringing it back. Hopefully, someday some journalist asks the right question to trigger something. Until then, all we have is a guy with a good amount of coin willing to spend it on getting Firefly back. I can think of worse people to attack.
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Originally posted by metsrulein2k:
Fox is the worst place on earth for the rights to firefly to be. ... I'd rather have a dead mouse hold the rights to this show than Fox...
FOX would still own the rights. This plan is just to license them for the purposes of making two episodes (in essence, a new pilot), and then shop the show around hoping to get it picked up -- with FOX having the "right of first refusal" anyway.
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This Underhill guy is trouble we don't need, and I suspect nothing good will come of throwing his hat in the ring. I've posted before about this guy, and I think we need to run, not just walk away from anything he's conected with.
Mal: Jayne, just how many weapons you plan on taking? You only got the two arms.
Jayne: I just get excitable as to choice. Like to keep my options open.
Mal: I don’t plan on any shooting taking place during this job.
Jayne: Yeah, well what you plan and what takes place ain’t ever exactly been similar.
Mal: No grenades.
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Originally posted by ripley:
You can spin it any way you like. A quote's a quote. Unless you can cite a direct quote from Joss that contradicts what he plainly says, then you're simply reading into his words what you want to see.
Best,
ripley
Umm... who here has read this quote? Does this seem to... contradict... his previous statements at all? i dunno, to me it does... Note that the date of the article is more recent.
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=17800
Note the line: "I'm not ruling anything out. I'll let it simmer for a while and see if anyone calls."
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