Whedon's guy responds to Firefly Season 2.com reports on SCI FI Wire
POSTED BY: ripley
UPDATED: Sunday, February 12, 2006 19:29
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SCI FI Wire has this new report on the Firefly Season 2 effort:
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=1&id=34383
ripley
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And there you have it.
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Interesting in the least. At least now we know that Joss Whedon knows of the effort.
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The other thing we know is that Sci Fi Wire continues to misreport what JOss has said about TV as an option, making it seem as if he's said he'd never go back to TV, when in reality all he has said is that any new incarnation, in any medium, would not be like any previous incarnation, in any medium.
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Hi--
Just so you know: SCI FI Wire didn't "misreport" Joss' saying that he didn't want to do Firefly again. Whedon said it to USA Today. Here's the quote: "We'll never make Firefly again, because that was a thing that existed and is now gone. And Serenity isn't Firefly, and whatever comes next won't be, either. But I would love to tell more stories of this universe and to hang out with these people on and off for the rest of my career."
That sure sounds to me like Joss is saying he won't do Firefly again.
As for what SCI FI Wire says, here's the direct citation from their story: "Whedon previously told USA Today that he still hopes to tell more stories set in Serenity's futuristic universe, but added that there's no chance he'll do another Firefly TV show."
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Yes. The point being philosophical, as in "you can't recapture the particular thing that Firefly was" but not as in "I'll never do this franchise on TV again, period."
Joss has said repeatedly in his own words that he will tell these stories wherever he is given the room to do so. But lazy reporters keep twisting his meaning.
We've been debunking this crap for months now, and people still don't seem to get it.
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You can spin it any way you like. A quote's a quote. Unless you can cite a direct quote from Joss that contradicts what he plainly says, then you're simply reading into his words what you want to see.
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ripley
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Originally posted by ripley:
You can spin it any way you like. A quote's a quote. Unless you can cite a direct quote from Joss that contradicts what he plainly says, then you're simply reading into his words what you want to see.
Best,
ripley
Ok, here:
"I'll do my best to tell stories that cause as much trouble as this one did. And if I ever get the chance to return to this one... in case it was ever unclear due to shoddy journalism, sign me right the hell up."
Joss posted this to the old Universal boards, which are now offline. But it's archived here:
http://www.fireflyguidebook.com/univ-posts-joss/univ-posts-joss.html
It's all the way at the bottom.
It ain't me that's spinning. I'm debunking the media's spin -- and yours.
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That quote is about as vague as anything I've ever read. Nowhere does he say: "I will do another Firefly TV show." or "I'll tell Firefly again as a series in whatever medium they'll let me."
Note again in the USA Today quote he says: "We'll never make Firefly again, because that was a thing that existed and is now gone."
Also, SCI FI Wire said that Joss wants to tell storie set in the same universe. That is not inconsistent with saying he doesn't want to do Firefly as a TV show again. It means: He'll do another Serenity movie, if it comes up; he'll do Serenity comics; he'll even do a Serenity radio show. But nowhere does it say he'll do another TV show called "Firefly."
I don't understand how that's "shoddy journalism." If anything, it's more accurate than anything you're saying.
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ripley, you're not getting the point. Just because those words do not specifically say that Joss will do another tv series, neither do they say he will not. What it says is that whatever new project comes along in the 'verse...whether it is on tv, in movie theaters, direct-to-dvd, comics, shadow puppets, whatever...it just won't have the same flavor or perspective as Firefly, whose time has come and gone. It's one of the reasons that the BDM had a different title, because it was not Firefly, but something a bit different, even though it featured the same characters.
Why are we still talkin' about this?
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