Tim Minear/Greg Edmonson Questions

POSTED BY: Jetgirl23
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JETGIRL23

Friday, January 27, 2006 1:53 AM

Was Tim MInear NOT involved in the BDM in any way? I didnt see his name in the credits and was wondering why, since he was such a big part of the show. I would have thought he would have been one of the Executive Producers.

Also, has there ever been any discussion on why Greg Edmonson was not chosen to do the BDM music? Was this a desicion by Joss (and has he said why) or was it as simple as he was on another project and couldnt do it?

The score of the BDM is probably the only thing I can say that I dont worship about it. (and thats only in comparing it to the series score which is just......well you know....unbelieveably perfect and beautiful)

I would love if anyone can bring me up to speed on any of this. The more details the better (not that I have to tell you guys that )

Thanks!

"Faster would be better"

SERGEANTX

Friday, January 27, 2006 2:20 AM

The decision to keep Greg Edmonson out of the movie was Universal's. And it was an incredibly stupid one. The soundtrack to the movie was at best unremarkable and at times bad enough to seriously detract from the mood.

Reportedly they believed an experienced film composer would help insure a more 'epic', film-like score. It was the most glaring of the attempts to mainstream Firefly for the movie.

As far as Tim Minear goes, he was busy doing Wonderfalls and other projects as plans for the movie were being made. Likely he was just too committed and assumed he'd be busy making great television. But there's not much of a market for that apparently. Joss has indicated he'd like to have him on board any future Firefly efforts. I'd love to see that myself and felt his influence was missing in the movie.

SergeantX

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JETGIRL23

Friday, January 27, 2006 3:36 AM

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
The decision to keep Greg Edmonson out of the movie was Universal's. And it was an incredibly stupid one. The soundtrack to the movie was at best unremarkable and at times bad enough to seriously detract from the mood.

Could not agree with you more on this one!

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As far as Tim Minear goes, he was busy doing Wonderfalls and other projects as plans for the movie were being made. Likely he was just too committed and assumed he'd be busy making great television. But there's not much of a market for that apparently. Joss has indicated he'd like to have him on board any future Firefly efforts. I'd love to see that myself and felt his influence was missing in the movie.

SergeantX

Aaaahhh....I wonder about this though....too commited to work on the BDM at all....not even consult? (insert... "its not in the budget" here) thats it though? I was hoping for a little more juice.

I didnt know he did Wonderfalls ...another show I was into watching that just dissapeared.

Thanks for the info!

"Faster would be better"

SERGEANTX

Friday, January 27, 2006 5:03 AM

Yeah, I don't recall reading anything about Tim being shut out. He just has aspirations of his own and had the opportunity to be the main showrunner for a change. If I recall correctly he was also under some contractual agreement to produce shows for the devil, er... I mean Fox. Not sure on that one though. Either way, he's made clear he'd love to be involved with Firefly again (as has Greg Edmonson) and Joss has said he wants to work with Tim again. I don't think there's any 'juice' to the story. Not that I've heard about anyway.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

CBY

Friday, January 27, 2006 10:42 AM

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Originally posted by Jetgirl23:

The score of the BDM is probably the only thing I can say that I dont worship about it.

I love it. It's one of the most powerful sci-fi scores I know. Everyone directly comparing the two soundtracks does wrong to both of them, anyway. Newman did a great job, it's sad that not many seem to appreciate it.

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SERENA777

Friday, January 27, 2006 2:25 PM

I totally agree the score was not up to the movie

But i have a Q -- The orig. firefly score - is fantasic - but isn't that tied to the "rights"
of Firefly - so they couldn't use it?

and if they used another fantastic score wouldn't it be "tied" to the movie?

maybe Joss was thinking if/when he did another
series the "new" score would be created by
the firefly composer .(Just thinking and hoping
on my part)

afterall how many haunting, powerful scores are there?

SERENA777

Friday, January 27, 2006 2:29 PM

re: Tim Minnear

I truly hope there isn't "bad Blood" between the two -- they were great on this

maybe Joss had to the movie to assuage his ego

afterall he was the creator -- and the evil,
bad, fox network - called His baby ugly

(Tim helped birth it - but it was Joss's "baby)

CBY

Friday, January 27, 2006 5:23 PM

I think the respect for Edmonson as a person is clowding the judgement of many browncoats. If his name would be written on the CD instead of Newman's, many browncoats would suddenly change their minds.

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CAPTAINCDC

Friday, January 27, 2006 6:25 PM

I loved the score. And I would favorably compare it with the score from the series. As I listen to it, I have a hard time figuring out what it is that people don't like. It seems to me if you liked the firefly score you would like the BDM score, but that's just me.

As for Tim Minear, there is no bad blood between him and Joss. They have even talked about Tim making a possible Spike movie. Of course now that The WB is no more, that may not happen. I think the reason that Tim did not help with the BDM is because he was working on Wonderfalls and then went straight to The Inside (the great fbi show that fox axed way too soon). If a sequel is ever made (fingers crossed), it would be really awesome if Tim collaborated with Joss. Those two minds are great on their own, but put them together and you have something really special.

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DC4BS

Saturday, January 28, 2006 12:29 AM

I think there's a few very short bits of the BDH score that are absolutely fantastic. Maybe 90-120 seconds worth...

The opening run of Serenity entering atmo leading up to the buffer pannel loss is good and had great potential as a 'theme' I assumed would be carried through the movie. Only we never hear it again exept for 2 VERY brief reprises very late in the movie.

If that wonderful theam had been incorporated more and or extended more than 20-30 seconds into a real 'song' it would have rocked.

I thought the rest of the score became a prety monotonous dirge. It could have just as easily come from any number of other films. Sure it was better than those others in production quality but almost nothing about it stands out as uniquely Firefly/Serenity to me.

Yes, scores are mostly "mood" music (I own many) but c'mon. I find nothing truly memorable except the fact it only has that briliant minute or two (split up across 3 tracks) that shines so brightly above everything else. I'd love to buy a single of that theam extended to a 3 or 4 minute piece. Better yet, all three bits extended into full tracks of each variant.

My 2 cents anyway.

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