Observations

POSTED BY: WhooDahn
UPDATED: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 07:42
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WHOODAHN

Sunday, August 17, 2003 7:09 PM

I watched Out of Gas and I noticed that River is not limited to sensing just thoughts and emotions. She said 'Fire' before there was any indication that the ship was on fire.

I watched OMR again (it was a two Firefly night) and as they were heading into the net, Jayne asks Mal if he should aim for a window and Mal tells him no, it might kill someone. After Jayne disables the net it looks like he moves the gun and intentionally puts several shots into the window. Mal never says anything about it. I wonder why.

TZEGHA

Sunday, August 17, 2003 7:14 PM

I just always assumed that she could sense the future a bit, only a few seconds in advance, in addition to being a reader.

As for OMR, I just figgered that Mal had meant for Jayne to save his ammo in case he missed the first go. But since he didn't, Jayne could waste his ammo any way he saw fit.

SARAHETC

Sunday, August 17, 2003 8:23 PM

I also watched OMR last night--showed it to someone who'd never seen Firefly actually-- and noticed a couple new things.

When they're leaving Triumph, as the ramp is rising and Mal is waving, Zoe's waving backwards with her hand heald really high as she's shutting stuff up.

Then, when Kaylee is comforting Saffron with the "He's like a monster" line, Jayne's hand creeps into the frame and he kind of rubs Saffron's shoulder with his knuckles.

All y'all probably saw those long ago, but I was interested.

As for Jayne shooting out the window of the carrion house, I think it makes a lot of sense. His first idea is to shoot the window to kill the people that would kill them. Since that won't insure their survival, he shoots out the breakers and then shoots out the window. Bonus.

There used to be a thread like this about little nuances and stuff you never noticed until you'd watched an episode about 150 times. Good to have another one up front. Unless you wanted this to be entirely about OMR, in which, sorry for the implied proto-hijack.

Sarah

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

BLACKSTAR

Sunday, August 17, 2003 9:25 PM

In OMR, Jayne asks if he should aim for the windows, and Mal replies "That might kill some folk, but it won't disrupt the net." As I saw it, Mal didn't really care if Jayne killed the net operators or not, he just wanted to make sure the net was down... keep flying, first, everything else, second.

Has anyone noticed that River seems to actually get worse as the episodes progress? It seem that in "Serenity" she was limited to muttering and crying. In Train Job she through some stuff and in Safe she yelled and cursed a bit. It wasn't until Ariel that she actually harmed anyone, to wit Jayne a la butcher knife. In Wargames, she shot dead 3 of Nyska's men cold, and in OiS she removes a gun from Jayne's locker and commandeers Jubal's ship(though arguably that wasn't crazy behavior). I dunno, maybe it's nothing, but I was wondering what y'all think.

Oh, my GOD! Who's flying this thing! Oh, right, that would be me...

WHOODAHN

Sunday, August 17, 2003 9:36 PM

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Has anyone noticed that River seems to actually get worse as the episodes progress? It seem that in "Serenity" she was limited to muttering and crying. In Train Job she through some stuff and in Safe she yelled and cursed a bit. It wasn't until Ariel that she actually harmed anyone, to wit Jayne a la butcher knife. In Wargames, she shot dead 3 of Nyska's men cold, and in OiS she removes a gun from Jayne's locker and commandeers Jubal's ship(though arguably that wasn't crazy behavior). I dunno, maybe it's nothing, but I was wondering what y'all think.

I figured that was character development. Up until Ariel, Simon hadn't been able to treat her. After he figured out what was wrong with her, he was able to treat her better. In Wargames and OIS I think her actions were fairly sane (sorta). There was a valid reason for her actions.

KLEPTO

Monday, August 18, 2003 12:02 AM

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Originally posted by WhooDahn:
In Wargames and OIS I think her actions were fairly sane (sorta). There was a valid reason for her actions.

In OIS, River thinks she's surrounded by autumn leaves, holding a tree branch, when it's in fact a loaded gun? Fairly sane?

GINOBIFFARONI

Monday, August 18, 2003 12:39 AM

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Originally posted by Klepto:
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Originally posted by WhooDahn:
In Wargames and OIS I think her actions were fairly sane (sorta). There was a valid reason for her actions.
In OIS, River thinks she's surrounded by autumn leaves, holding a tree branch, when it's in fact a loaded gun? Fairly sane?

Happens to me all the time...

" If wishes were Horses, then we'd all be eatting Steak "

WHOODAHN

Monday, August 18, 2003 1:22 AM

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Originally posted by Klepto:
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Originally posted by WhooDahn:
In Wargames and OIS I think her actions were fairly sane (sorta). There was a valid reason for her actions.
In OIS, River thinks she's surrounded by autumn leaves, holding a tree branch, when it's in fact a loaded gun? Fairly sane?

Sorta

KLEPTO

Monday, August 18, 2003 2:05 AM

I suppose you are mostly right. The rest of the episode she plays hero. Simon becomes the one hard to look after.

LOTV

Monday, August 18, 2003 5:42 AM

The only observation I have made recently, is that the school computer labs are finally open again...

Yippie!!

(...and then I have to leave this Saturday... Gorram it!)

LOTV: Ima-who-whata-whoichy-whoda-whazza--huh?

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