DOes Joss have the cajones?

POSTED BY: serena777
UPDATED: Friday, January 27, 2006 19:59
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MICHAELANGELO

Friday, January 27, 2006 4:31 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Yes, he's VERY busy. Doing a couple more feature films right now (Goners and Wonder Woman), and apparently doing some talking about a Spike movie for either WB network or DVD direct release.

A Spike movie? "Do we care about that. Are we caring about that?"

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You can't take the sky from me

KWICKO

Friday, January 27, 2006 5:14 AM

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Originally posted by MichaelAngelo:

A Spike movie? "Do we care about that. Are we caring about that?"

~
You can't take the sky from me

Well, *I* care about that. I'm a fan of ALL of Joss's universes, because they're all fun places full of great stories. I've never been a Wonder Woman fan, but you can bet your arse that I'll go see the gorram movie when it comes out - just because it's Joss's baby!

And Spike is still one of my favorite characters. He's evil, but it's a FUN kind of evil, full of snarkiness and wit.

"Kaylee, find that kid that's taking a dirt nap with baby Jesus; we need a hood ornament."

KELLAINA

Friday, January 27, 2006 6:32 AM

If only it were this easy. Joss can talk until he's blue in the face, but if the networks aren't interested it doesn't matter.

Sci-fi would likely be the best home for a new series, or mini-series, but from what I understand they don't have oodles of cash to throw around (not that I'm suggesting we raise money. Because I'm not - that opens up a another can of worms).

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I DOn't think with all of the ruckus we've been stirring that a network (with vision)
would have a problem doing this.

The networks would have a problem - Firefly was cancelled (doesn't matter why, there's still a stigma) and Serenity didn't exactly shatter any box office records.

Unfortunately, the nets like the tried and true - safe shows, how else can we explain the existence of 3 CSI's and 4 Law and Orders. There's little vision when a bottom line must be met.

I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but I'm getting tired of people suggesting that all Joss needs to do is make a few phone calls. If it were that easy Firefly wouldn't have been cancelled in the first place.

This isn't the first time we've been in limbo - but we'll get through it, because that's what Browncoats do

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Edited to add: I would love a Spike movie

If nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do. -"Angel"

AKA LittleAlbatross

RIVER6213

Friday, January 27, 2006 7:20 AM

I have a feeling that Firefly might get a series again one of these days, because it IS future money in the bank, but I fear it might be a long while from now, and when the networks do it, they might use different people. I hope it doesnt turn out that way, but it might.

4 or 8 years from now, would anyone accept the idea of a new Firefly with new people?

Please forgive me if this is an intrusion in the thread.

River

PIRATENEWS

Friday, January 27, 2006 3:20 PM

Joss has CJ, judging by FF's pilot episode music video:
http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/01/8310.php

Intense rush!

"You can't stop the signal!"
-Mr Universe, STM, Pirate TV

MYCROFTXXX

Friday, January 27, 2006 5:59 PM

I think Kwicko is right. If Joss is in negotiations with anyone about the future of this franchise in one form or another it would be kept under tight wraps until the deal is finalized. Who he might be dealing with is likely analyzing the sales of the various products (Theater#s, Firefly series DVD sales, Serenity sales) to figure out what is the most logical path to take. Fan support will play a role but only a minor one as we all love the 'verse in any medium which doesn't give them the answers they need.

If Joss IS working some deals it will be a while before we get an inkling of it. Non-disclosure agreements are very effective in keeping mouths shut and they usually have very specific terms as to when the signed parties can even allude to a deal (I work with NDAs a bit so know their effectiveness).

My suggestion is to continue the enthusiasm for the show and movie, recruit new Browncoates and hope there is something in the works.

As Book would say, Belief will get us through this. A little faith in Joss wouldn't hurt either.

GLUEMAN

Friday, January 27, 2006 7:20 PM

RiveR6213 Wrote "4 or 8 years from now, would anyone accept the idea of a new Firefly with new people?"

Talk about Cajones! I don’t have a problem with that as long as care was taken in casting.

You better get use to the idea that things the way are will change. That'll take Cajones from everyone!

BROWNCOAT1

Friday, January 27, 2006 7:59 PM

First off, welcome to the site Serena777. It's good to have you here amongst the faithful.

I will admit this is one heck of a thread to ring in your arrival.

I don't think the question here is over whether Joss has the stones to make Serenity fly again, at least it is not in my mind or the mind of anyone that has been around long enough to see how Joss has busted his hump for this show & the movie. I think the question is more one of timing.

The show never had a chance, but that was the fault of Fox & their shortsighted execs, not a lack of love or commitment on Joss' part. To even remotely question his loyalty or the level of his commitment to the show or the fanbase does the man a disservice he does not deserve.

Desire alone is not enough to make Serenity fly again. Were it only that simple the browncoats, Joss & the cast would have had her flying long ago. It takes a studio or network backing you, lots of money, and no legal entanglements with Fox as they (to our knowledge) still own the television rights to the show.

I think that Joss & Universal, like us, are waiting to see how well the movie does on DVD before a decision is made on whether or not a sequel is forthcoming. All we can do in the meantime is push the movie DVD as hard as we can & get the word out to new people. Expanding the fanbase will bring us the numbers to give us a shot at a future.

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