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Osama sends the president a message

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RUE
Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:17 PM

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The joke was clearly meant to belittle not only Bush, but his entire administration.
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No really? You worked that one out all on your very own, oh well done! You get a gold star for effort, your mother must be very proud of your amazing powers of deduction.
Hey I claim the prize for saying it first !!


Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.

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Friday, January 27, 2006 1:15 AM

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Originally posted by Auraptor:
I said W didn't START this mess, but he sure as hell is responding to those who did. Need a road map for this one ? I'll make it easy for you Osama and Saddam.


Stupid apologetics.
Using this kind of idiocy if one was so inclined they could blame every problem of the world on an American president.

So anyway, is it a simple registry office or a full church job for you two?
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I know it's the in thing to ridicule Bush and call him all manner of things unflattering, but he's still smarter than Kerry. Not saying much, but it's a fact.

Well that’s not proven is it; getting higher marks at school don’t mean a damn thing. But I’m not arguing whose better, Bush or Kerry, because I really couldn’t care less.
You play the ‘whose idiot is less stupid’ game if you like, but just so you know:
Bush is a dribbling idiot. Dragging up all the morons in the world isn’t going to change that.
And that’s something I’ve been saying since before he wasn’t elected, and not a damn thing has proven me wrong yet.
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There you go again, telling me what I supposidly think, and getting it wrong,..again. Trust me, I know sarcasm, and you do it very poorly. But to be honest, I prefer dropping Atomic bombs to end world wars that have killed millions, and would otherwise kill 100,000's of more civilians and soldiers.

*best country bumpkin accent* 'I know sarcasm I does'...
Not really you don't, otherwise you wouldn't have missed it and the point completely.
Let me spell it out for you, it's obviously quite complex, you turn up here and insinuate anyone on these boards who doesn't support Bush and sing his praises at all opportunities (i.e. anyone not you) loves OBL. I turned your flimsy non-existent logic around on you.

Rather than realising this you leap on it and start arguing the point, which actually made me laugh, this is like debating with a child.

But I see your point; you can throw unqualified accusations around and tell people what they think, as long as they don't do it back.
I mean, don't they know who you are?

Erm, do they even care?
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G'day.

The difference between an idiot and someone who does/say’s stupid things on occasion (i.e. a normal Human) is frequency and the ability to recognise and admit it.

You act like an idiot with a frequency deserving of the village idiot, like throughout this entire thread.

When you do you can't admit it, you blame it on everyone else, and act like you’re pure as the driven snow.

Least I've got the bottle to admit my mistakes to the world, which is more than you or Bush have ever done.
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They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself.

Or make jokes about them apparently…



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Friday, January 27, 2006 2:50 AM


you could at least spell his name right, the way the FBI does on it's most wanted posters... USAma Bin Goldstein....

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"The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its enemies attack it. I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by people for personal reasons. I have been living in the Islamic emirate of Afghanistan and following its leaders' rules. The current leader does not allow me to exercise such operations."
-USAma Bin Laden (CIA code name Jew Tim OSSman when in California buying SAMS from CIA), business partner with Bush family since 1947, brother Salem Bin Laden was George Bush Jr's first business partner in Arbusto Oil in Texas, his other brother Shafig Bin Laden was dining with Sir George Bush Sr Knight of the British Empire and Carlyle Group (owner of Serenity) on 9/11/2001 in Washinton DC, CNN, "Bin Laden says he wasn't behind attacks," September 17, 2001

"I have already said that I am not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other human beings as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people."
-Usama Bin Laden, Ummat magazine, September 28, 2001

"It's easy to imagine an infinite number of situations where the government might legitimately give out false information. It's an unfortunate reality that the issuance of incomplete information and even misinformation by government may sometimes be perceived as necessary to protect vital interests."
—US Solicitor-General Theodore "Ted" Olson, in Jennifer K. Harbury vs. United States, at the US Supreme Court, on 17 March 2002 (his wife Barabara Olson, attoney at law and CNN talkinghead disappeared on September 11, 2001, allegedly on American Airlines Flight 77 that never hit the Pentagon)

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media."
-William Colby, Director CIA, assassinated 60,000 people via CIA Death Squads in Vietnam Wars with Phoenix Project ("drowned" in a suspicious "canoe crash" while cooking dinner in Washington DC)

VIDEO DOWNLOAD: Bush Sued by RICO Act - 9/11 victims sue Bush Gang under RICO Act for perping domestic terrorism and mass murder on 9/11/2001. Stanley Hilton vs traitorous media whores Shaun Hannity and Alan Colmes for Jewish Australian porno king pimp daddy Rupert Murdock on Faux News.
http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2005/10/7209.php

VIDEO DOWNLOAD: Operation Northwoods - James Banford from ABC News reported on Pentagon's Operation Northwoods plot to perp domestic terrorism in USA to blame a foreign nation and "justify" invasion, declassified in 2000
http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2005/10/7209.php
http://BodyOfSecrets.com

"Towers that fell 'like a controlled demolition'. Planes that vanished then mysteriously reappeared, and crucial evidence that has been lost for ever. In the Pentagon, a top secret team drew up a plan to simultaneously send up two airliners painted and numbered exactly the same, one from a civil airport in America, the other from a secret military airbase nearby. The one from the airport would have military personnel on board who had checked in as ordinary passengers under false names. The one from the airbase would be an empty drone, a remote-controlled unmanned aircraft. Somewhere along their joint flight paths, the passenger-carrying plane would drop below radar height, and disappear, landing back at the airbase and unloading its occupants in secret. Meanwhile, the drone would have taken up the other plane's designated course. High over the island of Cuba, it would be exploded in mid-air after broadcasting an international distress call that it was under attack from enemy fighters. The world would be told that a plane load of blameless American holidaymakers had been deliberately shot down by Fidel Castro's Commun

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Friday, January 27, 2006 4:46 AM

The revisionist history of the neo-cons is most impressive.....

Blaming Saddam for all the Iraqi's who died as a result of the sanctions that only the US and Britain
wanted to keep... because ole Saddam couldn't prove to their satisfaction that he didn't have a WMD program, of course it took a US invasion, to prove the US wrong on that fact... So what did those people die for, and who is to blame ?


And hey, as for Saddam... just how guilty is he anyway......

I mean sure, he used chemical weapons on a civilian population which was rising up against the " rulers " of Iraq.....

but hey, if you condemn him for that, you have to also condemn Winston Churchill... I mean really they did exactly the same things:

http://www.ccmep.org/2003_articles/Iraq/041903_our_last_occupation_gas
.htm


Perhaps statues of him should be torn down as well...


Don't think they give a shit

I'm with Signy and Rue

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Friday, January 27, 2006 6:11 AM

Well, Saddam earned that blame, but it doesn't excuse those who already knew that Saddam was a monster and didn't care what he would do. It's like having a psycho in a shopping mall, and so locking everyone in until they starve if the psycho doesn't surrender, and then blaming the psycho for killing the people because he didn't give himself up. Which is exactly what it was. But the psycho is still a psycho, even if he's not to blame specifically for *those* deaths, he has over a million of his own in wars that he started.

You clearly haven't heard me on the subject of Churchill :)

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Friday, January 27, 2006 6:15 AM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Well, Saddam earned that blame, but it doesn't excuse those who already knew that Saddam was a monster and didn't care what he would do. It's like having a psycho in a shopping mall, and so locking everyone in until they starve if the psycho doesn't surrender, and then blaming the psycho for killing the people because he didn't give himself up. Which is exactly what it was. But the psycho is still a psycho, even if he's not to blame specifically for *those* deaths, he has over a million of his own in wars that he started.

You clearly haven't heard me on the subject of Churchill :)




And what of those who merely pay for these actions, providing arms and support for those who do the deeds.......

until that issue is dealt with any " justice " is completely meaningless



Don't think they give a shit

I'm with Signy and Rue

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Friday, January 27, 2006 9:48 AM

People keep throwing this justice word around. Lao Tse says justice is evil. I think he's basically right. I don't blame the makers of guns unless the gun doesn't do what it is supposed to. Technically, an awful lot of normal things can be used in a genocide, fences, cars, etc.

Most responsible are the people who do the deed, and next are those who may have encouraged, or at least intentionally did nothing to stop it, which is where bad presidents are usually found. Terrible presidents are found in the first category. Jackson and Truman were terrible presidents. I've been thinking of Bush as a bad president, but he may be a terrible one.

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Friday, January 27, 2006 6:47 PM

Saddam was CIA all the way, just like USAma Bin Goldstein. Bush Sr ordered Saddam to invade Kuwait, via his secretary of state James Baker. Baker is currently general counsel for Carlyle Group which owns Universal Studios and Serenity. Baker is currently DEFENDING the Saudis and the Bin Ladens (members of Carlyle Group) who are sued by victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Bush Sr set the oil wells on fire under United Nations Corporation command, to blame Saddam and jack up oil prices, as confessed by US troops.

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"We have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait. James Baker has directed our official spokesmen to emphasize this instruction."
-April Glaspie, US Ambassador to Iraq, videotaped meeting with Saddam Hussein on 7/25/90 - Iraq invade Kuwait one week later (New York Times, 9/23/90)



The Iranians gassed the Kurds (Wahabi Jews), not Saddam, even tho Sir Rummy Knight of the British Empire (Jew) and Sir Heinz Kissinger Knight of the British Empire (Jew) sold/gave Saddam billions of dollars worth of free Made-In-USA nerve gas, which poisoned US troops when Stormin Norman ordered US infantry to bomb the nerve gas bunkers at Campucea (sp) to destroy the evidence, but refused to allow them to wear their chem gear (which was 100% defective anyway).

Saddam's wife said the individual on "trial" now is not her husband, but one of his decoys.

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dreamtrove wrote:
Technically, an awful lot of normal things can be used in a genocide, fences, cars, etc.



Yes, and vaccines are by far the most deadly method of genocide, which is one reason FF/S was financed and allowed to be shown to the sheeple, er, public. FF/S included immunization shots/stabs and immunizations added to the food supply, as Monsanto (Searl) is currently adding HIV/AIDS virus to its gene-spliced corn crops, that are cross-pollinating to all other corn types (which lets Monsanto seize all farms for patent infringement - Monsanto's lawyer Clarence Thomas is on US Supreme Court after appointment by George Bush Sr who is his cousin by marriage). Rummy was CEO of Searl when he sold WMDs to Iraq.

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"In the event that I am reincarnated I would like to return as a deadly virus in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation."
—His Royal Highness Prince Philip, husband Queen Elizabeth of Britain, father-in-law of Princess Diana, from autobiography, "Down to Earth: Speeches and Writings of His Royal Highness Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, on the Relationship of Man With His Environment", in chapter titled, "His Royal Virus"

"The damage people cause to the planet is a function of demographics - it is equal to the degree of development. One American burdens the earth much more than twenty Bangladeshes ... This is a terrible thing to say. In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it's just as bad not to say it."
-Commander Jacques Cousteau, United Nations Corporation UNESCO Courier, November 1991

"The FDA claims that the drugs it approves are 'safe.' This charade is rapidly collapsing. PBS television’s investigative series Frontline has aired a shocking exposé of dangerous prescription drugs and the FDA’s complicity in allowing this outrage to occur. As Frontline found out, the FDA does not conduct clinical trials, because the agency is not in the business of conducting medical research. The FDA instead reviews the results submitted by pharmaceutical companies. In a stunning admission, a senior executive with Britain’s largest pharmaceutical company has stated that most prescription medicines do not work on half the patients who take them. Dr. Allen Roses is worldwide vice-president of genetics at GlaxoSmithKline, admitted, 'The vast majority of drugs only work in 30 or 50% of the people.' Something is wrong when regulatory agencies pretend that vitamins are dangerous, yet ignore published statistics showing that government-sanctioned medicine is the real hazard."
-Life Exte

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Friday, January 27, 2006 7:10 PM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
People keep throwing this justice word around. Lao Tse says justice is evil. I think he's basically right. I don't blame the makers of guns unless the gun doesn't do what it is supposed to. Technically, an awful lot of normal things can be used in a genocide, fences, cars, etc.

Most responsible are the people who do the deed, and next are those who may have encouraged, or at least intentionally did nothing to stop it, which is where bad presidents are usually found. Terrible presidents are found in the first category. Jackson and Truman were terrible presidents. I've been thinking of Bush as a bad president, but he may be a terrible one.



I think we are really close to agreeing.... except maybe on a level of ethics...

At Nuremberg, which is I think the legal precident which would most apply, many people who knowing provided support were convicted, some had really no choice but but help... and they were convicted without having done the deed.... some examples

Admiral Karl Dönitz: he was charged with "Conspiracy to wage aggressive war" (count one), "Planning, initiating and waging wars of aggression" (count two), and "crimes against the laws of war" (count three). Specifically, he faced charges of waging unrestricted submarine warfare and of issuing an order after the Laconia incident not to rescue survivors from ships attacked by submarine.

As one of the witnesses in his own defence, Dönitz produced an affidavit from American Admiral Chester Nimitz who testified that the United States had used unrestricted warfare as a tactic in the Pacific and that American submarines did not rescue survivors in situations where their own safety was in question. Despite this, the tribunal found Dönitz guilty of charges two and three, for which he was sentenced to 11 and a half years. He served ten years in Spandau Prison, West Berlin.

In addition , the Laconia incident mentioned involved a US aircraft being ordered to attack a U-boat which was attempting to rescue more than a thousand men from a torpedoed ship by towing their lifeboats to a RV with neutral rescue ships they had called for by radio....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_D%C3%B6nitz

http://wernerhartenstein.tripod.com/U156Laconia.htm

Please check out the links and tell me what you think of that conviction ?

or further

Hans Fritzsche : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Fritzsche

propaganda guy

Walther Funk :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Funk

banker ( this one I agree with..... but didn't do the deed himself as you said earlier )

Erich Raeder

or Julius Streicher...... who ran a distastefull newspaper... but did no actual crimes... well other than being a mouthpiece

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Streicher


perhaps if these are the standard which conduct is judged, those at Fox news better start running scared...






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I'm with Signy and Rue

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Saturday, January 28, 2006 12:59 AM

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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
perhaps if these are the standard which conduct is judged, those at Fox news better start running scared...


The most heinous crime is 'being on the other side'.

Now if the people at Fox worked for Al-Jazeera...



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