DOes Joss have the cajones?

POSTED BY: serena777
UPDATED: Friday, January 27, 2006 19:59
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CARTOON

Thursday, January 26, 2006 4:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by serena777:
Now the real question is - Does Joss WHedon
have the cajones to make this happen?

Frankly, I clicked on this thread because (from the title) I assumed that some unfortunate accident had befallen Mr. Whedon -- possibly on the set of "Serenity" (you know, there were a lot of sharp objects being brandied about).

Relieved to see, however, that Mr. Whedon's cajones are apparently still intact.

Seriously, I don't get the vibes that Joss is still interested in persuing this. He if were, first thing he should've done was immediately fire the film's entire advertising/public relations department. "Serenity" got some very good reviews, and where did you see them quoted (or even mentioned) in the ads? Nowhere.

When you really want to do something, you give it your best. The studios buried this film, and I didn't hear Joss complaining about that in the least. (Not saying he didn't, but if he did, I certainly heard nothing about it.)

"You got any light to shed on this development?"

SERENA777

Thursday, January 26, 2006 4:52 PM

well, wer're dreaming anyway -

no way fox or any network is going to say
"we screwed up" publicly

'sides they're still making money over
firefly DVD's - they're making out like
bandits -

so in their minds - did they screw up?

GLUEMAN

Thursday, January 26, 2006 4:54 PM

Why FOX?......MONEY!

The management at FOX has changed sense Firefly was last broadcast I believe. “Let bygone’s be bygone’s”…..bury the hatchet and get a guarantee number of episodes produces direct to broadcast, DVD or VOD.

SERENA777

Thursday, January 26, 2006 4:58 PM

The linear response is a bit difficult...

Glueman you are soooo right!!!

We do need a collaberative effort

if you look at the DVd's Joss didn't write all
of them -

and they were great, funny, sad, bawdy shows

each and every one of the writers have the right to be proud of that series

But question -- do you think they would return
to the series? was there bad blood between
Joss and them?

I'm not up on all the gossip/rumors

I though Joss's beef w/Fox but were there other
problems as well?

ITSBROKEN

Thursday, January 26, 2006 5:26 PM

I dont think Joss should deal with fox again because they are just going to screw it all up, even if they end up making a ton of money on the dvd box sets. They would just air the eps out of order, and change things. I like the idea of someone else picking up the show.

Doesnt Joss have a couple projects right now though? we would have to wait for those to end. What about the other writers.

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***someone should make a MMORPG based on the 'verse!***

Geeze i want Firefly to come back!

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SERENA777

Thursday, January 26, 2006 5:34 PM

I think Si Fi is the best Frame for serenity/firefly

it can get more action, humor, mature audiences kind of stuff that "regular" Tv channels may have a problem with

and I don't think truly -even if they begged_
that he would go back to them

and I would applaud that decision

SERENA777

Thursday, January 26, 2006 5:41 PM

its broken

I do think he's "busy" but he has only to get the ball rolling - START "the talks" as they say -
there are a team of people who do the details

even if they started talks NOW - IT WOULD STILL TAKE MONTHS to see a series on TV -

and these "talks" can be done by his team while
he's doing his other projects -so no real need to wait.

CWNEK

Thursday, January 26, 2006 6:13 PM

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Originally posted by itsbroken:
I dont think Joss should deal with fox again because they are just going to screw it all up, even if they end up making a ton of money on the dvd box sets.
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You're right and you're wrong here. Fox NETWORK screwed up FF, and thus have lost out on the opportunity to have broadcast 4.5 more seasons of what we all know would have been a very successful program. They have profited zilch from DVD sales. Fox's production company has benefitted from these sales, and rightfully so. They are the good guys. We have them to thank for 6.5 seasons of BtVS, 5 seasons of ANGEL (both to be aired on non-Fox networks), and, had a new home been found for continued episodes back in 2001, 5+ seasons of FF. If and when FF is relaunched as a series, it will no doubt be done with a Fox Productions crew.

This board really needs a FAQ section to clear this and other issues up for good. It's nota s simple as "Fox Sux".

GLUEMAN

Thursday, January 26, 2006 6:26 PM

“I think Si Fi is the best Frame for serenity/firefly”

Ultimately I agree with you Serena777 but, I just think they should keep their options open with FOX. I’m bitter about how FOX handled them, but I think it comes down to the personality involved at that time. Things change…People Change. I just want the Show to continue.

Side note: The Entertainment world can be both wonderful and brutal at the same time...it takes
a thick skin to survive.

"Have you looked at this scan carefully? At his face? It's love point of fact" Operative at the Institute Records Room

KWICKO

Friday, January 27, 2006 4:08 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by serena777:
its broken

I do think he's "busy" but he has only to get the ball rolling - START "the talks" as they say -
there are a team of people who do the details

Yes, he's VERY busy. Doing a couple more feature films right now (Goners and Wonder Woman), and apparently doing some talking about a Spike movie for either WB network or DVD direct release.

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even if they started talks NOW - IT WOULD STILL TAKE MONTHS to see a series on TV -

and these "talks" can be done by his team while
he's doing his other projects -so no real need to wait.

True... but what leads you to believe that such talks AREN'T going on right now? If they were, you'd likely never hear about them until the ink was dry on the contracts, because nothing screws up a deal in Hollywood faster than a rumor or news leak!

For what it's worth, I've never gotten the impression that Joss Whedon has a huge ego. He's never been shy about asking for help when he feels he (or any of his shows) needs it, and he took Firefly around to every network in existence and practically BEGGED them to give hime a place to continue its story after it was dumped by Fox Network. He's said, REPEATEDLY, that he loves these characters, these actors, these stories, and this whole universe he created, as well as the entire crew that helped bring it to fruition, and he'd gladly work with them to bring out more stories from this 'verse. He says he WILL revisit this 'verse, so I don't think he's given up at all. A guy who just wanted a truckload of cashy money and a good ego-stroke wouldn't waste his time writing comic books to continue the story of this crew.

Sci-Fi would be the *logical* choice for a renewed Firefly/Serenity series, miniseries, movie of the week, or what have you, but that doesn't necessarily mean that THEY are interested, or that they can afford the monies needed to make it happen.

Didn't mean to rant, but I just get a bit frustrated with people constantly trying to say that Joss wants nothing more to do with Firefly or Serenity, that it's "over" for him.

As for why he didn't trash the studio or the marketing team for the way they handled the film's promotion... well, there's an old saying about not pooping where you eat. Joss might not be happy about the way some things were handled, but he'd damn well better not say it out loud, for public consumption! That's the surest way to get the studio or network to slam the door in your face.

Would Joss work for Fox Network again? I'm betting he probably would. Sure, there's no love lost between them, but time and money can sure help heal old wounds. If it meant he got to keep telling his stories of the Firefly 'verse, I've no doubt that Joss would suck it up, be the better man, and do the job admirably. Not to benefit Fox (which it undoubtedly would), but to benefit himself (psychologically, not just monetarily) and his faithful fans.

Mike

"Kaylee, find that kid that's taking a dirt nap with baby Jesus; we need a hood ornament."

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