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DOes Joss have the cajones?

POSTED BY: serena777
UPDATED: Friday, January 27, 2006 19:59
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Thursday, January 26, 2006 3:44 PM

The more I read - The momentum is there - a million ideas are there

I believe with all this momentum that we don't need pay-per-view - it has the potential
to be picked up - I don't think money was the problem -it was the shortsightedness of fox period.

Now the real question is - Does Joss WHedon
have the cajones to make this happen?


It all boils down to him -- we have the fanbase
we've delivered our end - we are die-hard believers

I DOn't think with all of the ruckus we've
been stirring that a network (with vision)
would have a problem doing this.

I choose si fi - because Universal is their
parent company and frankly with all
the twists and turns of Serenity/Firefly
The mixed-marriages,bawdy humor, regular humor, action, language all made the series and I'd hate to see them have to tone it down too much
and on Si Fi you can do that - not so much
on "Prime Time"

I don't think we need to pay per view it - it can stand on its own.

Now, Joss has been "bucked off" the Network
horse - and maybe he's a bit spooked to get
back on - he'll have to decide that

But the bottom line/question is:

Will JOss screw up his courage and get
into another series with Serenity?




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Thursday, January 26, 2006 3:48 PM

I'm with you.

I think all that would be needed at this point is for Joss to send out his feelers again. Also, I don' think Joss has to view it as a 24/7 commitment. Tim Minear could handle the show on his own with Joss as a part-time creative consultant.

Come on Joss...one more ride.

"And once you're gone, you can never come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black"
-Neil Young

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Thursday, January 26, 2006 3:52 PM

Methinks he could be haulin' 'em around in a wheelbarrow, but if he doesn't have a second wheelbarrow full of cash it won't matter how big his 'nads are. Stones don't get a show on the air, unless they're made of gold.

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Thursday, January 26, 2006 4:03 PM

Its not the cash - there is enough momentum

he has a big ego (rightly so)
but can he get over that enough
to come back to the "table"

Even if he a god or has golden cajones - no-one is going to give him
a 5 yr contract no q's asked- he will have to work for it (But a lot less hard if it were a new series with no fan base or movie behind it)

HE'LL have to ask and work for it

size doesn't matter - its what you do with it/them

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Thursday, January 26, 2006 4:20 PM

GrimJack - re: these "feelers"

is there such a thing? a way
to contact Joss or his company/rep/assistant?

it seems to be we're spinnin our wheels
trying to guess what will happen

personnaly i think some might be missing the point

- there is enough interest for a network
to pick it up -- doesn't need money

can I say it again - it don't need money!!!

But we do need one BIG VOICE that will
convince (or try to) Joss to return to Serenity

in a series form - not just a movie form

a movie has to be too fast paced - JOss is
a genius at the series.


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Thursday, January 26, 2006 4:26 PM

"Does Joss Whedon have the cajones to make this happen?

A Series does not one person make. Joss is the creator, but creative presentation in this form is a collaborative effort.

Ah...the question is does he have a creative and production team with cajones?


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Thursday, January 26, 2006 4:28 PM

My question would be, given his previous statements on about Fox, if Fox went back to Joss and said "We made a mistake, but we've made loads of money on the DVD boxsets, please come back and make the TV series again" would he do it, or would he stick to his guns about not doing any more TV for them?

mrben

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Thursday, January 26, 2006 4:40 PM

I wouldn't deal with fox again
I don't even like their line-up
why did he ever deal with them in the first place?

ANyway - do you mean if they kissed up to him
that it may assuage his ego enough to
bring firefly back? or not

what did you mean?

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Thursday, January 26, 2006 4:43 PM

Quote:

ANyway - do you mean if they kissed up to him
that it may assuage his ego enough to
bring firefly back? or not

what did you mean?



I meant that if it was a choice between a Firefly TV series with Fox, or no TV series at all, which would Joss choose?

(Personally I'd rather that there _was_ a TV series, but, as you say, I'm not sure I trust Fox to do it right.....)

mrben

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Thursday, January 26, 2006 4:46 PM

You are sooooo right!!!

I couldn't agree more -- there would have
to be a team

frankly I think TIm Minnear and some of the other fantatic writers that they had could handle "the day to day" with Joss writing one show a season
if he didnt want to engross himself

But face it JOss Whedon is the creator of the series and HE would have to start the ball rolling

I even think that if they let fans submit ideas
to "help" to series if needed.

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