Possibility of Firefly on the new CW??

POSTED BY: mcallen
UPDATED: Thursday, January 26, 2006 23:19
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CWNEK

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 6:29 PM

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Originally posted by rklenseth:
First of all, CW is owned by Time Warner so for the best chance for it to go to the CW network it would need for one of Time Warner's production companies to aquire the rights from 20th Century Fox or otherwise a new season of Firefly made by 20th Century Fox means that most likely it'll go to a network owned by Fox including the infamous Fox Broadcasting Network that gave Firefly the axe in the first place. Second, as a Time Warner employee, I don't think your chances are good that Time Warner would bother to aquire the rights. Time Warner is mainly interested in building their Cable network, news network (CNN, and their numerous local 24 hour new stations; which is where I work), and their Premium channel networks (HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, etc...). CW for the most part gleans most of their shows from other production companies not owned by Time Warner that have been turned away from most other networks.

Your best bets right now are if Universal greenlights a movie sequel, Universal aquires the rights to Tv broadcast, or Brilliant Screens Entertainment (that Ace Underhill character) aquires the rights in seeing more Firefly/Serenity.

NO...NO...NO... Why won't these un-truths go away and stay away?! 6.5 seasons of BtVS and 5 seasons of Angel were produced by Fox's production company to be aired on the WB and on UPN (the two networks involved in the proposed merger). Other than syndicated episodes in re-runs, they were never aired on a Fox network. Fox's production company would be wrapping up FF season 5 right now if a network had been interested in picking it up (Early on, UPN was thought to be the most likely taker). A relaunched FF would be a great way for the CW to beome known. It could do for them What BtVS did for The WB during its infancy.

WEREALLJUSTFLOATING

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 7:43 PM

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Originally posted by milford:
Huzzah! I'm all in. I think the WB owes Joss, seeing as all of his shows put that station on the map and kept it afloat. If there's no Buffy, there's no WB plain and simple. Buffy brought in the Smallville and Gilmour Girls viewers.

I admire you're passion milford, but (and I mean no offense) you're wrong.

From the WB's perspective, they don't owe Joss a gorram thing. Similarly neither does UPN, the CW, 20th Television(the studio) or FOX, the network.

The same can be said for Universal. Joss is the one who must convince them to finance and distribute his shows/movies. If the big companies aren't convinced that his 'product' will be a profitable/worthwhile investment, then they can and will decline to invlove themselves, i.e cancel an exisitng show or decide against backing a new one.

That (as I understand it) is what happened to Firefly - the Fox network pulled the plug on it because they didn't want to continue pouring money into it (BIG MISTAKE as we all know, but it was their right to do so). Same thing re Angel - the WB cancelled it for whatever moonbrained reasoning they had -and Joss couldn't do a damn thing to stop them. He did indeed try to get both shows picked up by other networks etc... but he had no luck.

At the end of the day the ball is in the suits' court. We can only voice our support of Joss and all his endevors through the money we spend, the shows we watch and the letters we write, and hope against hope that the PTBs listen to us.

FOLLOWMAL

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:02 PM

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Originally posted by oldfogey:

Breathes there the man with soul so dead
Who never to himself hath said
Firefly is home, my crew, my band.
...apologies to Sir Scott.

Ah, I love it, and it is just exactly how my heart sees it.

Thank you.

" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal

MILFORD

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:04 PM

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Originally posted by werealljustfloating:
From the WB's perspective, they don't owe Joss a gorram thing.

Actually mi amigo, it is you who are mistaken. Without Buffy, the WB never gets off the ground. If they had cancelled the show after the first offering of epidodes, there was nothing waiting in the wings to keep things going. There's no cash from Buffy or Angel. They don't attract the younger viewer that is now the cornerstone of thier newtwork with all their other teenie-bopper shows (I mean that with no derision, I haven't missed an episode of Smallville yet!). The point is that in fact the WB owes Joss a ton.

Now, that being siad, you are correct werealljustfloating, TECHNICALLY they don't owe Joss a snort. I was foolishly applying human characteristics to evil automotons. If the WB or CW were to order new episodes from Fox, I'm sure those moneygrubbers would find a way.

Remember, that but for one trifling exception, the entire universe is made up of others.- Oliver Wendall Holmes

GRIMJACK21502

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:25 PM

Dawn Ostroff is the President of Programming. As soon as they launch a web-site or a press release with a few "underlings" we should pick someone and barrage them with "Relight the Firefly/Boy do you guys need Joss" e-mails and snail mail.

"And once you're gone, you can never come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black"
-Neil Young

THECOLLECTOR

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 9:01 PM

That someone should be Dawn. IMO, since Joss is good friends with her that gives us leverage.

Or hell we should get a campaign to send all the people working at the new network Firefly and Serenity Dvds in a gift basket of goodies as well. What should be included? A Serenity T-Shirt... with Serenity figurines... with the Serenity Novelization, and even the Serenity Visual Companion.

MILFORD

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 9:17 PM

Huzzah Grimjack21502! Let's get on it. I've also heard a rumor that since Unviersal (i.e. NBC, SciFi) now owns the broadcast rights to the series and Serenity, they might be a good option too. Let's get this organized and get on it. You guys are the best. If I ever come up with something clever like Joss, I hope my fans are as good as you are.

Remember, that but for one trifling exception, the entire universe is made up of others.- Oliver Wendall Holmes

ZEEK

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 11:07 PM

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Originally posted by zoid:
As for the "pervasive sentiment" you mention: Check the "Profile" pages of those registering such comments. I'll bet most of those posters have been members here not longer than since last June, when the promotional efforts for the movie were starting to ramp up. Fair weather friends. "Lukewarm" Browncoats (I spit them out). As for those who want to leave Firefly a cherished memory, for fear that it couldn't be as good in a second incarnation: Cowards! What red-blooded man or woman lives in fear that the future will not be as good as the past, so why bother even trying?

I beg to differ. I've been a Firefly fan from the days of it originally airing. I didn't frequent these boards back then obviously, but I watched the shows and tried to push it on others.

I have the pervasive feeling you speak of. For me it comes from Joss. Joss has stopped fighting. When our leader lays down arms, that's a huge let down to me. No, he hasn't said he's done with the verse. He loves the verse as much or more than any of us. Still his motto has changed. He's not out trying to find a new home. He's at home working on other projects. He's waiting for a home to be built with a nice Firefly welcome mat on it and a warm dinner on the table for him to walk in on. He's got a wait and see attitude now. It leaves me feeling like it's far less likely anything is going to happen anytime soon.

Which leads me to my next sinking feeling. The actors and actresses aren't cryogenically frozen waiting for the big red button to be pushed. They are getting older and moving on to greener pastures. I can't imagine our window for a Firefly revival is very big.

Obviously there is still some hope left. I've signed up for all the current campaigns I've heard of and I still want to keep abreast of any news about our BDH's. Even if they aren't portraying our beloved characters, I still want more.

I guess, in the end, the problem is that I don't really believe we'll get a Firefly revival. I'll fight for it if there's a decent fight being waged, but my voice inside says, "you're not going to win". Which of course brings up Mal's quote, "Might of been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

VIZZSAGE

Thursday, January 26, 2006 12:25 AM

if you let the hope die you die! stay strong and the Serenity will fly agen!

Wash: Oh, my God. What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing? Oh, right, that would be me. Back to work.

Kaylee: Everyone's got somebody. Wash, tell me I'm pretty.
Wash: Were I unwed, I would take you in a manly fashion.
Kaylee: 'Cause I'm pretty?
Wash: 'Cause you're pretty.

WEREALLJUSTFLOATING

Thursday, January 26, 2006 1:18 AM

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Originally posted by milford:

Actually mi amigo, it is you who are mistaken. Without Buffy, the WB never gets off the ground. If they had cancelled the show after the first offering of epidodes, there was nothing waiting in the wings to keep things going. There's no cash from Buffy or Angel. They don't attract the younger viewer that is now the cornerstone of thier newtwork with all their other teenie-bopper shows (I mean that with no derision, I haven't missed an episode of Smallville yet!). The point is that in fact the WB owes Joss a ton.

I'm aware of how significant a show Buffy was for the WB but I still stand by what I said in that post.

You and I both know that from our perspective the WB owes Joss more than they're ever likely to admit to. My original point was that, in fact, they don't have to see it like that, cos they're a TV network and essentially all they care about is profit, not art!

I think perhaps I came across as more cynical than I truly am. I love Firefly with all my heart but I also understand how little that means to the networks, be they 20th, The CW, or NBC/SciFi. Remember, it's not the fan's affection for this verse that impressed Universal pre- BDM, it was the sales of the DVD's and anything else Firefly related that turned a profit.

I guess what I'm trying to say is this: we need to remember that ultimately, the only way we are going to see this 'verse back on TV is if a studio believes in it enough. Is this fair to us, not a jot, but it's the truth. The same goes for a movie sequel, I still have my fingers crossed that the DVD sales of Serenity will snowball and we will get another BDM.

I have all the faith in the world that Joss will one day get the chance to return to this verse. I just think we're going to have to wait longer than we initially thought. In the meantime, we have Wonder Woman and Goners to look forward to.

"You're a very 'up' person"

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