Possibility of Firefly on the new CW??

POSTED BY: mcallen
UPDATED: Thursday, January 26, 2006 23:19
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1978

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:15 PM

I would LOVE to have a new weekly "Firefly/Serenity" fix but at the same time Joss is an artists and artists need to create new things. So, I would not begrudge him a new show or new concept but I would hope that he would bring "Firefly/Serenity" maybe into a new phase or genera.

I would not be upset if he decided to do something new. Well, I would for like a minute or something.

DARIENDAYSHADOW

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:29 PM

you guys im sorry to bother you but what is the CW. you guys keep talking about it. I dont kno what you are all talking about.

"My only regret......Was not being with you"

BROWNCOAT1

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:30 PM

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Originally posted by zoid:
Point is, I've never given up hope of seeing more Firefly. The movie was a good start; but I want it back on TV. To those who would be satisfied with comics and paperback serializations: To each his/her own. I'm not gonna be truly satisfied until it's back in a one-hour weekly format.

I've never given up that hope, and I never will. Maybe I'm stubborn; maybe I'm stupid. I don't really care. I have never felt this strongly about a televised entertainment. Firefly is something special and we all know it. For Firefly, I will gladly tilt with windmills and be thought a fool.

If you are stupid Zoid, you are my kind of stupid.

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Originally posted by zoid:
So, mcallen, have faith and take heart. If your love for Firefly is true, you can bet your ass that you will always have at least one 'old-timer' who will hold the line with you, to his very last breath.

Make that TWO old timers.

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DUG

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:39 PM

A few things to remember about back when the show was cancelled:

1. Advertising was still in a horribly soft state. It had been dropping across all industries since 4th qtr 2000 and 9/11 gutted budgets. This meant networks were feeling in a fragile way.

2. For some unfathomable reason Scifi was moving away from space shows. Makes the mind wobbble, that.

3. There was more competition. Andromeduh and Enterprise were both out. UPN wouldn't consider Firefly due to Enterprise being on their bill.

Since all of these things have changed and we have done the impossible already I would love to get the show back on the small screen.

Then again, I'll take it however I can get it. Novels, comics, subscription radio dramas like Doctor Who did, movies, whatever manner I can get it.

WEREALLJUSTFLOATING

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:43 PM

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Originally posted by DarienDayshadow:
you guys im sorry to bother you but what is the CW. you guys keep talking about it. I dont kno what you are all talking about.

No problem DarienDayshadow, this should clear things up for you:

This is what whedonesque.com linked to yesterday, but if you Google it there's plently of other articles to choose from.

http://money.cnn.com/2006/01/24/news/companies/cbs_warner/index.htm?cn
n=yes

"NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - Warner Brothers and CBS Corp. announced plans Tuesday for the creation of a new broadcast television network, called CW, that would replace the WB and UPN networks in the fall of this year.

The new broadcast network will draw on programming from both WB and UPN, and will be a joint venture between Warner Bros. and CBS (Research), with each company owning 50 percent, officials of both companies said. (The "C" stands for CBS, the "W" is for Warner.)"

There's more info in the article but that's the jist of it. What it'll mean for future incarnations of Firefly is all just speculation on our part.

MCALLEN

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by zoid:

I've never given up that hope, and I never will. Maybe I'm stubborn; maybe I'm stupid. I don't really care. I have never felt this strongly about a televised entertainment. Firefly is something special and we all know it. For Firefly, I will gladly tilt with windmills and be thought a fool.

As for the "pervasive sentiment" you mention: Check the "Profile" pages of those registering such comments. I'll bet most of those posters have been members here not longer than since last June, when the promotional efforts for the movie were starting to ramp up. Fair weather friends. "Lukewarm" Browncoats (I spit them out). As for those who want to leave Firefly a cherished memory, for fear that it couldn't be as good in a second incarnation: Cowards! What red-blooded man or woman lives in fear that the future will not be as good as the past, so why bother even trying?

So, mcallen, have faith and take heart. If your love for Firefly is true, you can bet your ass that you will always have at least one 'old-timer' who will hold the line with you, to his very last breath.

ZOID--THANK YOU!! I think that pretty much covers it. :-)

MAL: We're still flying.
SIMON: That's not much.
MAL: It's enough.

HAEKELDRACHE

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 4:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by zoid:
@TheCollector:

Welcome. As I implied above, there are many hereabouts who are only surfing the latest entertainment wave, who are not true 'fishermen' of the 'verse. To carry the analogy a little further: They troll around, making too much noise devoid of meaning, and occasionally throw in a stick of dynamite just to see what will float to the surface.

This analogy reminds me of an old Hemingway i once read, "The old Man and the Sea".
There is an old fisherman, Santiago, in Cuba who has gone eighty-four days without a catch. Santiago leaves shore early in the morning, hoping to catch a stray or perhaps even discover a marlin. The first bite of the marlin was hard, and after a few nibbles he swallowed the hook.
The fish is strong, though, and does not come up. Instead, he swims away, dragging the old man and his skiff along behind.
After hours and hours of exhausting fight Santiago catched the Marlin and the huge fish finally dies. Having killed the Marlin, Santiago lashes its body alongside his skiff.
Two hours later, two shovel-nosed sharks arrive at the skiff. Santiago is tring to get rid of them with his knife, but the sharks are ripping off the Marlin from underneath the boat. More sharks appear at sunset and Santiago only has a club with which to beat them away.
He concentrates purely on steering homewards and ignored the sharks that came to gnaw on the marlin's bones.
Santiago fought well, but when he arrives at the harbor, the Marlin was barely more than a Skeleton.

I think this man was a true Browncoat. Let´s hope that we will get more than a fleshless carcass - anyway, we will keep on fighting...

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"Burn the land and boil the Sea, you can´t take the Sky from me..."

Haekeldrache is german for Crochetdragon

ZOID

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 4:11 PM

DarienDayshadow asked:

Quote:
you guys im sorry to bother you but what is the CW. you guys keep talking about it. I dont kno what you are all talking about.

It was alluded to in the first post of the thread, which included a link to Whedonesque, which in turn included a link to Mo Ryan's Chicago Tribune online musings, here: http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2006/01/the_n
ew_cw_netw.html

Before anybody goes totally ga-ga, it should be noted that Ms. Ryan is nominally a journalist, not a programmer or consultant for the new network. I doubt seriously that her opinions account for much more than any of ours with the CW's brass. Still, it's nice to know we've got some paid TV critics on our side of the fight. (NB: She specifically mentions "Cowboys in space...".)

But it was a good opportunity for me to grind my axe on a different website, so I did. Look for the comment by 'zoid', and I think you'll recognize my signature bull-headed reasoning. Other 'flans' have similarly piped up with their own commentary.

I think it would be just really special and heartwarming if all of y'all would likewise post a short and supportive response on their board ...crashing their server in the process.

That'd teach 'em to mention Firefly or conjure with the name of Joss Whedon within earshot of a Browncoat.

Flantastically,

zoid

P.S.
Still free-associating, how about this for a line from a future episode of Firefly?

Mal: "River, we need to talk..."
River: [Studying her computer screen] "Can't right now, Captain..." [looks up at him, and says slowly, eerily] "...I've got an axe to grind."
Mal closes his mouth just in time to avoid saying anything further, does a precise about-face and exits, stage right.
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"I aim to misbehave." -Capt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity, a.k.a. 'the BDBOF'

HAEKELDRACHE

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 4:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by werealljustfloating:

"NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - Warner Brothers and CBS Corp. announced plans Tuesday for the creation of a new broadcast television network, called CW, that would replace the WB and UPN networks in the fall of this year.

I just read "Browncoat Televison Network"... think i got a narrow, firefly related perspective on reality -_-

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"Burn the land and boil the Sea, you can´t take the Sky from me..."

Haekeldrache is german for Crochetdragon

ZOID

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 5:14 PM

Haekeldrache wrote:

Quote:
This analogy reminds me of an old Hemingway i once read, "The old Man and the Sea"...

Very apt. Bravo.

It's good to see that someone has not only read Hemingway, but comprehended his message. I will be like Santiago, who finally understands the old lion that through failing eyes, still roars defiance at the setting of the sun...

Figuratively,

zoid

P.S.
...And if you need any proof that our educational system is whacked, get an eyeful of this: http://www.sdcoe.k12.ca.us/score/oldman/oldmantg.html. If the Boards of Education and the teachers don't understand the meaning of Hemingway any better than this, how will their students? It's about sea turtle conservation and Joe DiMaggio's baseball stats?!?
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"I aim to misbehave." -Capt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity, a.k.a. 'the BDBOF'

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