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Possibility of Firefly on the new CW??

POSTED BY: mcallen
UPDATED: Thursday, January 26, 2006 23:19
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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 6:51 AM

@Zoid,

I just offically watched firefly this last christmas. I'm pretty new.

It was weird walking into these boards one of the first threads I read was sort of a "Let it Go" thread so I felt like I showed up too late for the party and now everyone wants to go home.

But Well... that's enlightening to know that there are "Old Skoolerz" that still are giving their all. Thank You

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 7:35 AM

@TheCollector:

Welcome. As I implied above, there are many hereabouts who are only surfing the latest entertainment wave, who are not true 'fishermen' of the 'verse. To carry the analogy a little further: They troll around, making too much noise devoid of meaning, and occasionally throw in a stick of dynamite just to see what will float to the surface.

You've got to get up early, weather the storms, tend the nets, and bring a lantern and a lunch to be a real fisherman, a real Browncoat. A lot of people all over the world truly 'get' Firefly. We're not going anywhere.

I let the blowhards rant and poke and needle. I figure they'll be gone as soon as the 'next big thing' rolls around. But, when I read the comments of someone who's newly discovered the ingenious artistry of Firefly -- like mcallen and yourself -- stating that they're beginning to doubt their blossoming love for Firefly because of those blowhards, well... I just gotta say something.

The faster the attention-deficient 'surfers' convince themselves to leave, the better, as far as I'm concerned. I'm not rude enough to actually chase them off; I'll let them run their (short) course. Once they're gone, we can get back to the serious business of harvesting the catch. They'll have their fun, flitting about from one fancy to the next. But we'll land The Big One. We did it before, and I believe we will do it again.

Firefly's for lifelong lovers, not thrill seekers...



Respectfully,

zoid

P.S.
I just had a strange association pop into my head. Didja ever see "The Perfect Storm"? The fishermen haul in a record catch and then lose the boat (and their lives) in "the storm of the century". It occurs to me that we may very well have lost our Serenity catch to a devastating storm (Katrina), too. But we're keeping our heads above water and hoping for rescue. Davey Jones' Locker is too cold and dark to resign yourself to, without first exhausting your last ounce of strength. "When you can't run anymore, you crawl, and when you can't do that... " Well, let's just say somebody's gonna have to carry me out of this place.
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"I'm thinking we'll rise again." -Capt. Mal Reynolds, Firefly, "The Train Job"

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:43 AM

First of all, CW is owned by Time Warner so for the best chance for it to go to the CW network it would need for one of Time Warner's production companies to aquire the rights from 20th Century Fox or otherwise a new season of Firefly made by 20th Century Fox means that most likely it'll go to a network owned by Fox including the infamous Fox Broadcasting Network that gave Firefly the axe in the first place. Second, as a Time Warner employee, I don't think your chances are good that Time Warner would bother to aquire the rights. Time Warner is mainly interested in building their Cable network, news network (CNN, and their numerous local 24 hour new stations; which is where I work), and their Premium channel networks (HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, etc...). CW for the most part gleans most of their shows from other production companies not owned by Time Warner that have been turned away from most other networks.

Your best bets right now are if Universal greenlights a movie sequel, Universal aquires the rights to Tv broadcast, or Brilliant Screens Entertainment (that Ace Underhill character) aquires the rights in seeing more Firefly/Serenity.

Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 9:11 AM

I think I'm going to be here for the long haul... because believe it or not I've been a very similar boat before. Not completly the same boat but both of them have the same smell it's got the odor of... Survival and Honey (this place is a beehive).

What makes it so similar is that I happen to also be a Droogie you see... (What is a droogie?... let's just say a fan of Megadeth). And in mid '02 for 2 whole days the Megadeth website was down... for those days I had no clue what had happened until the website finally came back on. The homepage loaded and then in big bold letters it had said that Megadeth was no more. The "Official Forums" got completely wiped into oblivion... it was like someone had nuked a city. Because that community is/was irreplaceable.

And now after another lineup change Megadeth is back... if it hadn't been for the fans that created the so many incarnations of "Fans United". "The System Has Failed" would've never been created... because we showed Dave that we were still there.


PS. Don't mind me... I'm tired.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 2:32 PM

I'm gonna ask a cheeky question here, so bare with me please:

What are people's thoughts about a possible spin-off from Firefly in the not-too-distant future?

Now just to clarify, I LOVE these characters to death, I LOVE the show and appreciate it as something truly unique in the world of episodic tv, but above all else, I LOVE, LOVE , LOVE Joss Whedon as a writer/director/creator.(I have done so since about 1999) When I went to see the BDM the first time my strongest feeling was one of pride - I was just so proud of Joss for making such a brilliant cinematic debut and showing the rest of the world - at least those uninitiated people who came to see the film - what a truly talented man he is. Of course anyone who's already watched his tv shows knows this but let's not forget, the rest of the world knew little of the genius we call Whedon.

I honestly think that someday Joss will want to return to the verse with a show that has the very best of what made Firefly so special, plus a whole boatload of new shiny stuff. Does anyone else agree?

And to amend my earlier post, I still hold onto the hope of either a Bid Damn Sequel from Universal, or another season of Firefly on TV - trust me, nothing would bring me more joy.

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We're still flying.

That's not much.

It's enough.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 2:32 PM



Zoid,

You constantly inspire me. And thanks. I'll be right here with you, holding the line, not giving up.

'Nuff said.


" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 2:46 PM


For myself, Werealljustfloating- I can't see anyone but these characters and actors in a story set in the 'verse.

I would not be happy, especially if Mal were not there. And a different ship than Serenity?! No way.

The magic created with this show is a combination of writing, the ship being real to us and the actors embodying their characters so fully. Lightning in a bottle, literally. Don't think it could be dupicated.




" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 2:49 PM

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Originally posted by MichaelAngelo:

One thing i might add (or should i say counter) is that when Joss first tried to find Firefly a new home, it was a canceled & rejected half season of TV with dreadful ratings. A LOT has changed since then. I wonder if all the networks would turn their backs on Firefly *now* after all the DVD sales *still* going strong, doing the impossible with Serenity, & the fact that 3 years after cancellation, there is still a boat load of vehement fans yelling loudly, “WE want more!”






Amen to that MichaelAngelo!

This is a point that a lot of people don't consider when they say tv is impossible or nearly impossible. When Joss shopped it around before we had no DVD sales, a huge fanbase, a presence & Cons or a BDM.

I'm thinking it would be a different story now.


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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:00 PM

I understand how you feel FollowMal - I should have guessed from your name . I too can't really imagine a show without Mal or Serenity, or any of the other characters for that matter. But I have faith in Joss and the other writers such as Tim Minear that they could continue telling countless stories within this verse, as they would have done had the show been kept on the air. After all, look at how much Buffy and Angel evolved as shows during their respective lifetimes.

By the way I didn't mean I wanted a show with wholly new characters and a new ship - remember Serenity has been flying long before Mal bought her and I'm certain he ain't letting go of her anytime soon...

I can so see him as an ageing Captain(ten/twently years down the road), still hopping from planet to planet, taking jobs that inevitably go awry, thinking about the early days with a twinkle in his eye...

____

We're still flying.

That's not much.

It's enough.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:14 PM

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Originally posted by mcallen:
Second, I know I haven't been around from Day 1, as many of you have, but why does there seem to be a pervasive sentiment (showing up more and more often the past few days it seems) of wanting to let Firefly die its too-early death?



I can’t understand why anyone would give up hope either - it really doesn’t take that much more effort to believe and it’s a whole lot more fun. Besides, how can anyone even guess at what might happen positive or otherwise? Only a few days ago there had been all sorts of possible comeback scenarios and dreams and none of them included, “the WB and UPN networks have combined and it would be a good fit for a JW show...” no one saw that coming.
I also don’t understand how, worst case scenario (beside no Firefly) a bad redux would tarnish the original... wouldn’t that just make it more special? It would even make for an interesting footnote in the 100 year history of the longest running show on tv. In 2102, when they have the anniversary and unveil the ceremonial crystal glass Firefly timeline that will hang in the Television and Motion Picture Arts and Sciences Academy, Firefly scholars on hand will look back and comment on that first return to tv as being....

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