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Possibility of Firefly on the new CW??

POSTED BY: mcallen
UPDATED: Thursday, January 26, 2006 23:19
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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 2:09 AM

Just saw this commentary on Maureen Ryan's recommendation for the new lineup on the CW network. Link here:

http://whedonesque.com/comments/9366#more

First of all, from her mouth to God's (and the network execs') ears! I read this and felt a crazy flicker of hope that Firefly might be able to come back and find a new home.

Second, I know I haven't been around from Day 1, as many of you have, but why does there seem to be a pervasive sentiment (showing up more and more often the past few days it seems) of wanting to let Firefly die its too-early death? I've read all the same interviews as everyone else, and I have not interpreted them to mean that a return to tv, with Joss, Tim and all the same cast, would be out of the question. I've interpreted all the comments to mean that it may be unlikely, but more due to network problems and lack of studio interest (read: $$) than lack of interest on behalf of the beautiful ones who gave us Firefly in the first place.

What am I missing? Because if there really is no hope or possibility of that happening, then why aren't we all jumping ship right now? Obsessing about something for the purpose of trying to bring it back and share with others is worthwhile, in my opinion. Obsessing over something futile that many (even the long-term fans) do not seem to want, is not.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 2:18 AM

All of the naysayers and "Let it goers" are still logging onto this site and believe me they are still waiting for the day when we can say...our friends are coming home.



"And once you're gone, you can never come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black"
-Neil Young

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 2:35 AM

Hi mcallen, just thought I throw in my 2 cents for what it's worth.

I understand how you feel .I myself have been a fan of Firefly since summer 2004 when I bought the DVD set. However I personally think now that the movie has been released (taking it's Box Office into consideration) I have to say with a heavy heart that I don't see Firefly , as we know and love it, returning to TV any time soon.

Don't get me wrong, there's nothing I would like more than to see that happen but Joss already tried to do that after the initial cancellation and even he couldn't get anywhere with other networks. As sad as it makes me to say this, the BDM may well be the final act of this story.

NOW, having said all that, I will be delighted to eat my words should we learn that Firefly is to be picked up again by the CW, for example. I'm just not betting on it.

This is my personal pipe dream: Joss goes from strength to strength in his film career, he's already off to a great start with Serenity(plus WW and Goners) afterall. Once he's gotten a few commercial hits under his belt he will have a different place in the Hollywood hierarchy and when he feels the time is right, he will make his inevitable return to TV, either with a completely new series premise OR with a spin-off of Firefly/Serenity, with new and hopefully old characters in a different setting within our beloved 'verse. Once he's an established film director, he should be afforded slightly more respect by network executives and hopefully the TV climate will have evolved in a positive direction, i.e less cancel-happy.

I'm sure many browncoats feel very differently to me about the future of Firefly, and I'm definitely keeping my fingers crossed that I'll be proven wrong and we hear some good news about a 2nd BDM, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

These last few news days have proven very interesting for us Browncoats. Who knows what the future will bring?

We're still flying.

That's not much.

It's enough.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by werealljustfloating:
Hi mcallen, just thought I throw in my 2 cents for what it's worth.

Don't get me wrong, there's nothing I would like more than to see that happen but Joss already tried to do that after the initial cancellation and even he couldn't get anywhere with other networks. As sad as it makes me to say this, the BDM may well be the final act of this story.



One thing i might add (or should i say counter) is that when Joss first tried to find Firefly a new home, it was a canceled & rejected half season of TV with dreadful ratings. A LOT has changed since then. I wonder if all the networks would turn their backs on Firefly *now* after all the DVD sales *still* going strong, doing the impossible with Serenity, & the fact that 3 years after cancellation, there is still a boat load of vehement fans yelling loudly, “WE want more!”

Given the chance, I think *someone* would see Firefly for the treasure it truly is & make season 2(3) happen.

Just my optimistic thoughts…



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You can't take the sky from me

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:23 AM

another factor to look at in Firefly's favor is that IT WAS COMPLETELY SCREWED OVER BY FOX AND NOT EVEN GIVE A FIRST CHANCE. how can you call airing a series on Friday night completely out of order a chance? only at Fox. Firefly is still waiting for a network to give it an honest FIRST chance to fly.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:25 AM

It confuddles me that someone hasn't noticed yet....completely confuddles me.

It makes me wonder sometimes what Joss did to piss off the whole TV exec community to have them treat him like this...

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 4:46 AM

I think some people say "let it die" because they don't want to keep their hopes up and then watch them die painfully after years of disappointment. It's a self-defense mechanism. But for that to work, they either have to stop visiting the site, or we all say we give up. As long as many of us still have hope, they'll keep getting re-infected. And the occassional false promises don't help the matter.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 5:22 AM

Okay assuming said show were to be picked up by CW... where should it be best put to take on and be a contender against the other networks?


Assuming (yet again) they get Firefly rolling again... they can't put Firefly on Mondays and expect it to succeed. It'd be suicide, First off, there's 24. Secondly if it's not 24... CBS would drive a nail in it's coffin with their sitcom line up... too many people watch those.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 5:32 AM

While this new network does look intresting I still hold my highest hopes with either SciFi or that whole Firefly Season2 project thing. And I am very much looking forward to some new comics set in the Verse.


And we all have been hurt by scams and the like before, people are just weary of getting hurt again but they all would be excited to see Firefly hit the air waves once again. (think I just dated myself a little bit )

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 6:26 AM


mcallen wrote, in part:

Quote:

...Second, I know I haven't been around from Day 1, as many of you have, but why does there seem to be a pervasive sentiment (showing up more and more often the past few days it seems) of wanting to let Firefly die its too-early death? I've read all the same interviews as everyone else, and I have not interpreted them to mean that a return to tv, with Joss, Tim and all the same cast, would be out of the question. I've interpreted all the comments to mean that it may be unlikely, but more due to network problems and lack of studio interest (read: $$) than lack of interest on behalf of the beautiful ones who gave us Firefly in the first place.

What am I missing? Because if there really is no hope or possibility of that happening, then why aren't we all jumping ship right now? Obsessing about something for the purpose of trying to bring it back and share with others is worthwhile, in my opinion. Obsessing over something futile that many (even the long-term fans) do not seem to want, is not.


Well, I consider myself lucky enough to have seen every episode of Firefly when it first aired on F*x, and lucky to have felt such sweet sorrow for my lost love during the dark months following its forced "hiatus". I've been a member of this board for going on two years now, and before that I posted daily on alt.tv.firefly and even downloaded eps from alt.binaries.multimedia.firefly before the Firefly DVD set was a twinkle in F*x's eye (shout out to "Hel" from the UK for posting those within days of them airing on British SciFi). As soon as they became available commercially, I round-filed my DVD-Rs and purchased them. I convinced at least 4 of my acquaintances to purchase them also (and they convinced 4 friends; iterate x times).

Point is, I've never given up hope of seeing more Firefly. The movie was a good start; but I want it back on TV. To those who would be satisfied with comics and paperback serializations: To each his/her own. I'm not gonna be truly satisfied until it's back in a one-hour weekly format.

I've never given up that hope, and I never will. Maybe I'm stubborn; maybe I'm stupid. I don't really care. I have never felt this strongly about a televised entertainment. Firefly is something special and we all know it. For Firefly, I will gladly tilt with windmills and be thought a fool.

As for the "pervasive sentiment" you mention: Check the "Profile" pages of those registering such comments. I'll bet most of those posters have been members here not longer than since last June, when the promotional efforts for the movie were starting to ramp up. Fair weather friends. "Lukewarm" Browncoats (I spit them out). As for those who want to leave Firefly a cherished memory, for fear that it couldn't be as good in a second incarnation: Cowards! What red-blooded man or woman lives in fear that the future will not be as good as the past, so why bother even trying?

So, mcallen, have faith and take heart. If your love for Firefly is true, you can bet your ass that you will always have at least one 'old-timer' who will hold the line with you, to his very last breath.



Irascibly,

zoid
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