River's Rescue

POSTED BY: AimsToMisbehave
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AIMSTOMISBEHAVE

Tuesday, January 24, 2006 11:15 PM

In Firefly, Simon says he paid people and they River out of the institution and they brought her to Persephone, but in the movie, Simon gets her out himself...

just for more theatrical explanation?

coulda been covered before

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SHINYMERC

Tuesday, January 24, 2006 11:20 PM

Well, I think he said both that he paid people to find out what they were doing to her and to get her out. He didn't say anything about not being the one to get her to the extraction point. (I think he mentions working "with" them to get River out.)

Does that help?

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AURAPTOR

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 12:01 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AimsToMisbehave:
In Firefly, Simon says he paid people and they River out of the institution and they brought her to Persephone, but in the movie, Simon gets her out himself...

just for more theatrical explanation?

coulda been covered before

"This show isn't about the people who made history; it's about the people history stepped on."

The series definantly gave the impression that River was delivered in frozen t.v. dinner fashion to Simon, and that he knew very little of what they did to her while in the *special school*. Well, in Serenity, not only was Simon there to see for himself, he was briefed by the head man, who mentioned precisely what they were doing to River, others, and how they were doing it.

That Simon played dumb on the t.v. show makes some sense, but I wish they hadn't involved him so much as the primary in River's escape.

Yeah, it's a bit of continuity problem for me too, but not overly much.

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HAEKELDRACHE

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 1:03 AM

What about this:

He hab a little help from this People finding her and get him into the facility. Then he played the Doctor, freed her and they escaped.
Later on (he knew that they had to flee) he freezes River to transport her easier - River was traumatized, so she propably would be like a "Flare" to all the Cops out there, and the alliance was searching for siblings, not one single Man.
Simon got himself a ride, the Serenity, to the Outer Planets, with River in his Box.

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AIMSTOMISBEHAVE

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 1:20 AM

eh... it jsut seemed to me like he got her in ice cube form and didn't really break in himself, or he wouldve known more...

maybe he had to get her out a second time (unlikely though, doesnt quite fit)

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GARBAGECANMUSIC

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 1:43 AM

Joss said at a Q&A session in Australia that he in fact broke canon and had Simon be part of River's escape in order to help tell the story in the movie. He said that he was going to explain it by having Simon not tell the complete story to the crew or something, he hadn't fully thought it out yet.

AIMSTOMISBEHAVE

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 1:52 AM

figured

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BOWIE

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 2:37 AM

all in all, I think it doesn't really matter if he got her out himself, or if the others did. He still didn't know exactly what they did to her, just that they were messing with her brain, which he knows in the show. Well for a while he doesn't know exactly WITH her actuale brain, but he does know they did stuff with her figurative brain. He can tell pretty easy that they drove her crazy, and thats shown in the movie and series.

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WYOBAR

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 4:45 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AimsToMisbehave:
eh... it jsut seemed to me like he got her in ice cube form and didn't really break in himself, or he wouldve known more...

maybe he had to get her out a second time (unlikely though, doesnt quite fit)

"This show isn't about the people who made history; it's about the people history stepped on."

When I first saw the rescue (from the BDM) I thought that Simon was getting her out for a second time & that the ship was Serenity. This would help explain the time lag for the Operative to come on the scene & also Simon's composure during the rescue (he did get more daring as time went by).

dong ma

AIMSTOMISBEHAVE

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 12:59 PM

nah

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