STARWARS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>serenity

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CHOCOLATEHAZE

Saturday, June 18, 2005 3:48 PM

Honestly, I've been more and more retroactively dissapointed with SW Episode III. Of course there were the omnipresent prequel issues such as lousy dialogue, wooden acting and convoluted plotlines riddled with holes... "but at least you get to see Vader turn evil!" ... Meh. The prequels permenantly removed Vader's testicles and I will have a hard time seeing the original trilogy without thinking of Whiny Bitch Anakin.

For an explanation of the problem(s) with Ep. III, see here:

http://tomatonation.com/sith.shtml

Great link.

I already had problems with George's "plot twist" when Darth *really* was Luke's father and Obi Wan's previous comments were true "from a certain point of view." Argh! Way to ruin a great iconic figure.

The abysmal plotting spiraled out of control in Ep I when it was revealed Anakin was conceived out of thin air. Don't even remember the rest of *that* movie. Never saw the second in theatrical release. Finally rented the DVD when I went to see Ep III, just so I wouldn't miss any of the supposed story thread. Ah, that would be none.

Ep III? So very sad...when a good story wastes away into bullet points on a coroporate memo.

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Oh, this is a happy development...
- Mal

ICARUS

Monday, September 26, 2005 12:46 AM

How... I am really sad that there are so many troll things... I...I can't even begin to say how sad I am to the Firefly community that there are people out there like that. Hopefully, we will all get along someday.

THIEFJEHAT

Monday, September 26, 2005 12:58 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by crsmiley54:

and about originality, Star Wars is drawn from various sources as well. Desert planets, futuristic sword fighting, mystical religions, and yes even clones all came from Frank Herberts Dune books from the 1960's.

Right on dude.

Big Dune fan here and I've always said the same thing regarding Star Wars.

Regarding Firefly coping SW: The first time I ever watched the pilot episode I noticed that after Book says to Kaylee "She don't look like much" in regard to Serenity her response was "Ohh..she'll fool ya" Those lines were slightly similar to Han's comments to Luke after Luke denounces the Falcon as a piece of junk. "She might not look like much but she's got it where it counts kid".

Not saying anybody copied star wars lines...maybe just inspired by them. Joss always says that he finds inspiration everywhere.

I still think that Firefly is utterly superior.

Do not fear me. Ours is a peaceful race, and we must live in harmony.

BOOKWYRM

Sunday, January 8, 2006 5:38 AM

As for some scenes in Star Wars being inspired by other sources, has anyone seen Lensmen? It's an Anime from sometime in the 70's. When I was told that Lucas had been inspired by the movie I watched it again, and I could see the scenes that had been borrowed and redone in the movie.

I realize that the troll board isn't the best place to continue a thread, but oh well. :)

Firefly beats Starwars hands down anyway.

SAINTJAYNIAC

Friday, January 20, 2006 12:32 AM

When I think of Star wars Now vs the original 3... it makes me hurt inside. I LOVE the original three pics. Great story, believable characters (at least for space opera :) ) it was magic. I'd watch them over and over, I got goosebumps the first time they came back to theatres in 97' (as I had not gotten to see episode 4 in theatres... unless mom whent when I was in the womb :D))

I must say though, Ol'd Darth Neck-skin (lucas) really lost the roots of what made those movies great when he started churning out the crap that is the current gen of Star Wars movies.

Now onto Firefly. One word.

Wow.

It was incredible to find a show that I enjoyed on par with the original Star Wars films. Wonderful character development, gripping stories and action, and a hefty dose of intelligent humor. It was if the almighty spoke on high, "BEHOLD! FIREFLY!"... and it was good.
I'm a recent convert to the Browncoats and I cast aside YEARS of undying loyalty to my old Han and Chewie to have FireFly's 'Verse usurp them to become my FAVORITE sci-fi of ALL TIME.

Endorsing trollers is not a particularly appealing past-time for me, but I know some of you who are scanning through this posting will Identify with what I'm talking about here.

Can't stop the signal!!

LUTHIEN1121

Sunday, January 22, 2006 6:46 AM

I definitely agree with you, SaintJayniac! I, too, grew up loving Star Wars and still love and re-watch the original 3 movies. The current 3 have such glaring plot holes and inconsistencies that it's quite disappointing.

Firefly now... On New Year's Eve I went to a friends house and we watched both Serenity and SW3. Serenity surpassed SW3 by such a huge margin. Good story; enjoyable, creative, funny dialogue; just an all-around good time. SW3 seemed incredibly melodramatic and hugely overdone.

Bottom line: I love Firefly. I dunno if Mal or Simon can *quite* replace Luke in my heart, but that's only because Luke was my first movie 'crush'. In all other ways, Firefly has taken first place in my heart.

We're gonna explode? I don't wanna explode!

CHOPPYBADGER

Tuesday, January 24, 2006 12:35 AM

The main point and major flaw of Star Wars Episode 1 -> III is the bad acting. I don't know about you, but there is not one single character in the new ones I find cool. Now the old ones, I thought Han Solo was the coolest. That is why since Serenity got me hooked, I have been quite displeased with the quality of the new Star Wars movies. Such shoddy acting, no believable character development, and character interaction is pretty much non-existant. The main thing I like about Firefly is the bickering between the characters. Reminiscent of ol' Han Solo and the other characters in the old trilogy. I am sure the kids loved all the pretty special effects in the new Star Wars trilogy, but I have become, through the past few years more inclined to character development. Firefly > Star Wars period.

The only law on the battlefield of the 41st millenium every Grot should know is: 'old da pin, fro' deh uvah part!

LUTHIEN1121

Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:46 AM

Amen! I have to agree. One of the things I missed most in the newer Star Wars as opposed to the older ones was the dialogue between the characters. I know, I know, some of the lines in the old ones were a bit cheesey, but you really got the feeling that these characters knew each other and had a lot of history together. While I do like Ewan MacGreger as Obi Wan (about the only character I really liked in the new ones), they just can't compare.

And Firefly! I'm watching the series again for the 4th time in order (in less than a month), and even though I know what's coming next I still can't wait for the next line of dialogue!

We're gonna explode? I don't wanna explode!

THEALMIGHTYSPAMWARRIOR

Friday, February 3, 2006 6:32 AM

dear sir
did it ever occur to u that star wars is gay and that i saw both serenity and star wars in the same month and serenity kicked star wars's nerdy little ass
the first star wars movies made were good but george lucas has just gone gay so his movies are now shit
shit shit shit
shity shity shit
like u
i hereby shit on your grave

SHUNMUDDLEFUDDLENUDDLEDUDDLE

MISSKITTEN

Tuesday, February 7, 2006 2:46 PM

LMAO you got me laughing. As for homosexuality. Several animals have been proven to be gay... deal with it.... LMAO

*~*~*

"Joss, if you kill him now I'll stuff a compression coil up your ass sideways!"
~ Kaylee, "Serenity in 2000 words or less"

Kaylee's the perfect woman!

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