NBC has cancelled
POSTED BY: Skywalken
UPDATED: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:47
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one man's trash is another man's treasure...
As Darwin said,,,, change or die.. oh well...
I liked the show... but it was moved around a lot.
Chindi (Liberal and PROUD of it!!)
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Originally posted by Khyron:Quote:
Originally posted by SimonWho:
... and devout Christian (hence his desire for peaceful resolution to conflicts) ...
Wait, now I'm confused. I thought being Christian means making it clear to everybody that doesn't conform to your beliefs how much God hates non-Christians for their evil ways, using force if necessary, and that if one is a Christian president it's one's moral duty to do likewise to other countries. ESPECIALLY if those heathen countries happen to have a bit of oil (which was clearly meant to be used by Christians, otherwise God wouldn't have created the SUV).
So you're saying that the president on the show was Christian and wanted PEACEFUL resolutions to conflicts!? No wonder the show's being cancelled, who could relate to that sort of highly stylised nonsensical fiction.
Hey now, don't be mean. I'm non-Christian myself, and believe me, I know about the pogroms and burning times. But a wise man once told me that if I was going to be a non-Christian in America, I'd better study the Bible.
So I picked up a red-letter edition, and read the words of the Son of Man. And soon realized that, while I would never be a monotheist, this guy was exactly the kind of person that a vituous pagan could get along with. "Judge not, lest ye be judged", "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone", "Why do you see the mote that is in your brother's eye, and behold not the plank that is in your own?"
Or in other words, "Clean up your own Karma first, Brother."
So, I have no problem with Christians. My problem is with the (sadly numerous) fools who think they're Christians while making no effort to actually follow the teachings of Christ. Or think that being a Christian means selectively enforcing Old-Testiment laws that the nazarine specifically released his followers from.
But don't mistake Christianity with war-mongering.
"Be not like the hypocrites, who like to pray in the temples and on the street corners, to be seen by men. Truly I tell you, they have had their reward in full. But instead go into the smallest room in your house, and close the door, and pray to your Father, who sees what is in secret." -- Matthew VI, Verse V & VI (Modern English Translation Circa 1969)
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Don't really see how this is "liberal trash" just because it portrayed democrats as real people instead of the gay ungodly tree huggers you want them to be...but this was a mighty fine show, that I found to be really fair and very bipartisan. It was intelligent, entertaining, and actually even educated me a little on how our government works. It was a really great show.
But now is the time for it to go out. Before it jumps the shark.
How's my firefly speak? Good? Bad? Fee-oo?
...It's fee-oo isn't it?
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Since the average American cant seem to tell the difference between the political left and right I wonder if you have the same trouble with hands and feet?
Your so called President certainly cant.
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I liked the early seasons of West Wing but it had gone downhill since Aaron Sorkin left the show. If you really think it's a piece of left wing trash why'd you even bother sharing the information. Unless of course you were trolling and looking to start something. Say what you will about the liberal left but they've done far less damage in 30 years to this country than that lying moron the neocon right love so much who just happens to occupy the White House at the moment. 300 billion of our tax dollars later and Iraq still isn't close to being better off. People always bash the left for wanting to raise taxes but George Sr. raised them after saying "read my lips, no new taxes" Lies just like sonny boy. must run in that inbred family.
Hey, if you troll for it long enough, you'll get it.
Jaytee
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Originally posted by RocketJock:
So, I have no problem with Christians. My problem is with the (sadly numerous) fools who think they're Christians while making no effort to actually follow the teachings of Christ. Or think that being a Christian means selectively enforcing Old-Testiment laws that the nazarine specifically released his followers from.
I think you'll find pretty much nobody has any problems with Christians. It's just a shame there's only a few hundred thousand in America.
Want proof? Go ask a few random "Christians" to name as many commandments as they can. See how many give "Love one another", the only commandment Jesus handed down himself.
President Bartlett is a fascinating study of how a true Christian acts while in a position of power and responsibility. He sanctions executions and political assasinations but hates himself for doing. He does do what is necessary but he doesn't do it with the grin of a goofy schmuck on his face.
It will be missed.
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Originally posted by JayTee:
People always bash the left for wanting to raise taxes but George Sr. raised them after saying "read my lips, no new taxes" Lies just like sonny boy.
Jaytee
Umm. Jaytee? Presidents have NO power to raise taxes... CONGRESS did that.

At best, presidents can make reccomendations and try to encourage congress to do what they ask for (yah, like that works well).

Bush Sr. didn't ASK for congress to rais taxes. He tried to stop it from happening. He didn't veto the tax bill due to a deal that was offered by the Dem controlled congress of the time to allow other legislation that was being blocked/delayed to get moving again.
Then they simply turned around and A: screamed "Hey, he lied about raising taxes!" and B: Never upheld their end of the bargain either. The Lib press only reported the "he lied" part in the headlines...
Is it any wonder Reps have a major problem trusting Dems... Or that Dems don't trust Reps cause the Reps aren't even remotely squeeky clean either...

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Originally posted by RocketJock:
Hey now, don't be mean. I'm non-Christian myself, and believe me, I know about the pogroms and burning times. But a wise man once told me that if I was going to be a non-Christian in America, I'd better study the Bible.
So I picked up a red-letter edition, and read the words of the Son of Man. And soon realized that, while I would never be a monotheist, this guy was exactly the kind of person that a vituous pagan could get along with. "Judge not, lest ye be judged", "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone", "Why do you see the mote that is in your brother's eye, and behold not the plank that is in your own?"
Or in other words, "Clean up your own Karma first, Brother."
So, I have no problem with Christians. My problem is with the (sadly numerous) fools who think they're Christians while making no effort to actually follow the teachings of Christ. Or think that being a Christian means selectively enforcing Old-Testiment laws that the nazarine specifically released his followers from.
But don't mistake Christianity with war-mongering.
I understand what you're saying and I agree with it, but most people that call themselves Christian aren't Christian at all, just people that have read the bible, go to church and then think they're better than everybody else because of it. As you said, "...the (sadly numerous) fools who think they're Christians while making no effort to actually follow the teachings of Christ". It's those Christians where it's not about faith but about "I'm more pious than thou art" that annoy me, and those are the ones I was referring to. I know that wasn't made clear in my previous post; I guess I could have said "Christian" instead of Christian (i.e. with inverted commas), but that would've been annoying to read.
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Originally posted by Khyron:Quote:
Originally posted by SimonWho:
... and devout Christian (hence his desire for peaceful resolution to conflicts) ...
Wait, now I'm confused. I thought being Christian means making it clear to everybody that doesn't conform to your beliefs how much God hates non-Christians for their evil ways, and that if one is a Christian president it's one's moral duty to do likewise to other countries (using force if necessary). ESPECIALLY if those heathen countries happen to have a bit of oil, which was clearly meant to be used by Christians, otherwise God wouldn't have created the SUV.
So you're saying that the president on the show was Christian and wanted PEACEFUL resolutions to conflicts!? No wonder the show's being cancelled, who could relate to that sort of highly stylised nonsensical fiction.
ROFLMAO !!!! Amen brudda.....take THAT all you right-wing, holier-than-thou, just-do-what-I-say,-'cause-I-know-what's-best-for-you types out there!!!
"to hell with this.....I'm gonna LIVE..!"
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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
I think television is so left wing extreme that it requires grading on a curve. I only saw the west wing a couple of times but it seemed fairly moderate to me, sort of a 'go mod dems' not really a 'raise upo the red flag' sort of perspective. Frankly, television ticks me off a lot more when it weaves it's radical left perspective into shows that pertain to be about real life but are really about a candy fiction pretending to be real life. If a show is about politics, at least it's out in the open. Every time a subject like this comes up, I'm profoundly reminded how we on the right need to have our own entertainment companies, with our own shows. A political drama set in the middle of the 20th century say, pitting the dems and the gop against each other in, oh, just pick any decade :)
But also, people that attack the GOP presently have a point. We need to put our shop in order.
Your own production companies, with your own shows......? I thought that was what 'Televangilists' were for?
to hell with this....I'm gonna LIVE..!
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