'The Message' : Once too often?

POSTED BY: Giskard
UPDATED: Sunday, January 29, 2006 06:28
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GISKARD

Friday, January 20, 2006 3:17 AM

The whole "When you can't run....." if I remember correctly, it was repeated 3 times. Twice in the recording and once by the boy.

The 2nd and third ones were too closely placed and sort of irritated me. Though the wonderfully sentimental way the last scene was shot sort of helped make up for it.

Did anyone else feel the same way?

HOGWAFFLE

Friday, January 20, 2006 4:02 AM

actaully i love how often they repeat it =)

EPECKMIO

Friday, January 20, 2006 5:39 AM

i love it as well, and notice how you actually don't know how it ends until the ending?

OOKAMIKAWAHARA

Friday, January 20, 2006 5:55 AM

The thing is that it is true. If your in combat that is how it plays out and the truth needs to be drummed into some peoples heads here. Combat ain't a pretty thing whether in real life or even training for it. I loved it, some body had a take on the line where they ended it with Bukkake. No I'm not gonna translate it and yes it is pretty heavy (read explict)
Surren know enough Japanese to get myself into and out of trouble
mata, Ookami yori

Strike, strike, and strike again cause these Alliance boys are a starten to crumble. Surren ain't nothen to it.

N0SKILLZ

Friday, January 20, 2006 5:59 AM

I didn't like it cause Tracys voice was just WAY to annoying to me. but a good quote tho...

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RAF Lakenheath

OIAMSLAIN

Saturday, January 21, 2006 7:39 AM

I understand it was supposed to be affecting and all but I think Whedon & Minear really overdid it with this ep, which was surprisingly and really disappointing.

NUCLEARDAY

Sunday, January 22, 2006 2:32 PM

Well, 3 tends to be the magic number right? Think I remember hearing that somewhere. Like in big speeches, you try to make three points in higher and higher levels of emphasis, etc. "I came, I saw, I conquered," for example.

Come to think of it, isn't that quote in three parts? (Can't remember off-hand the exact phrase, so I could be wrong, tends to happen quite often. :)

1)"When you can't run you walk"
2)"When you can't walk you crawl."
3)"When you can't crawl..." (Sorry, but I get all foggy-eyed when I hear the whole thing, so forgive me for not completing it... but, well, you know the rest :)
Anyways, the rule of 3 tends to be a guideline writers and such use for dramatic purposes. It's kind of like the golden rectangle in visual art, not a steadfast rule but something to fall back on in times of need.

QWERTY

Monday, January 23, 2006 1:38 AM

I have to admit, the one thing about this episode that bugged me was that if they'd let Tracey in on what they were planning from the get-go, he would never have had to die.

Why didn't they just tell Tracey that they knew the "Alliance" guys were out of their jurisdiction, and knew that they didn't have to turn Tracey over? That way, Tracey could've just returned to his family, and no one would've really been the wiser?

This is just a little something that has bugged ever since I watched the epi.

FARAMIR

Monday, January 23, 2006 9:31 PM

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Originally posted by qwerty:
I have to admit, the one thing about this episode that bugged me was that if they'd let Tracey in on what they were planning from the get-go, he would never have had to die.

Why didn't they just tell Tracey that they knew the "Alliance" guys were out of their jurisdiction, and knew that they didn't have to turn Tracey over? That way, Tracey could've just returned to his family, and no one would've really been the wiser?

This is just a little something that has bugged ever since I watched the epi.

I agree, a bad note to an otherwise usually outstanding series. Just tell him "Dude, chill, we have this plan, see. They're out of their jurisdiction...."

PURPLEBELLY

Monday, January 23, 2006 9:41 PM

With due respect, I think you're missing the point -- twice.

The homily has to be repeated:
when Tracey learns it
when Tracey uses it to play the crew
when Tracey uses it genuinely
when Tracey's grieving parents derive false comfort from it.

The crew don't share their plan with Tracey because they always have thought that he's a worthless piece of shit who's likely to get everyone killed -- they give succour out of loyalty to a comrade, not because he's wonderful human being.

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