OK So Spike or Angel?

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LIMINALOSITY

Sunday, November 27, 2005 1:11 PM

As much as I love Angel,

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I cheered when Spike swirled up out of the amulet at the beginning of season 5.

Angel angst is so well written and acted, "If nothing we do matters..." and the imaginary dancing (!)

But Spike stole my heart forever when he fell out the the car drunk in "Lover's Walk".

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CAT1620RD

Wednesday, December 28, 2005 10:28 PM

Is this seriously a legitimate question, Spike hands down, (though I do think Angel is cuter) Spike is just so Sarcastic and hi-larious and just so Spike! He is everyones favorite.

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I totally cried when he died in buffy I was ready to kill Joss Whedon...even more then I am now because of Wash, and I had never watched Angel before I only turned to it cause buffy was over so I figured I would watch one episode, then Spike came out of the amulat and I watched teh rest of the season and went back to watch the others.

Spike WINS!!!!!

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XLOGIC

Monday, January 2, 2006 8:59 AM

Whilst I enjoyed Spike on ‘Buffy’ (par the final season when I think that he was just too prominent and the writing of the character seemed, at times to be all over the place), I was pretty pissed about him transferring over the ‘Angel’ at the beginning of Season 5.

Putting it simply, it was because of the character’s popularity – which, I don’t think, it necessarily right. As an ‘Angel’ fan primarily (a ‘Buffy’ fan secondarily) I felt that the WB (who demanded that Spike come over – as well as slashing the show’s budget) were tainting my show. Furthermore, I worried greatly about the effect this would have on the screentime of the other characters on the show. As I comment before, the seventh season of ‘Buffy’ could have been renamed ‘The Buffy and Spike show’; and I didn’t want that to happen to ‘Angel’. I particularly feared for the screentime of Alexis.

Having said that, whilst it may not have been for the right reasons, it worked. Joss and co made it work. Spike came in he brought something new to the show. James had a great chemistry with David and his presence brought this new dynamic to the show. Also it created one of the best character arcs of the show’s history – Angel’s lose of faith in the Shanshu Prophecy and himself.

I do, however, feel that the sheer quality of Season Five (also my favourite of the series’ run) cannot simply be laid at James’ feet, though it was certainly a factor. The writing that season was just tighter, Alexis and Amy were phenomenal and I think the show benefited from the more attention that Joss was able to provide. And the finale was just…. Amazing is not the word.

I seen so much death... I been on fields carpeted with bodies, friends and enemies - i seen men and women blown apart to messes no further from me to you. But every single ones of those people died on their feet. Fighting. Or, hell, running away - doing summat to get through...

EMBERS

Monday, January 2, 2006 12:57 PM

Spike, definitely Spike

but I did like Angel more when he was with Spike
they were definitely a good duo (or rivalry)

Joss said that he was always pairing Angel off with little blondes
and in Spike he had finally found the perfect ingenue for Angel

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 1:18 PM

Is everyone forgetting that William the Bloody was a poet. What was Liam? A drunken bar room brawler.This is before he was evil. Spike was funny, but Angel had 10xs the depth. But like what alot of you are saying they play off of eachother so well that you cant really say whos better. Im going to though, Angel all the way!

VISITINGMYINTENTIONS

Monday, January 23, 2006 4:06 AM

Angel was...boring. Just plain boring. Get over the whole "tortured" thing already! Spike was interesting from the moment he walked on screen in School Hard, and Angel boring from WttHM on. Angelus was a great character. The quote that always springs to mind is, "It seems that in losing his soul, Angel has regained his sense of whimsy." We sometime get Angelus-like moments from Angel, and that, to me, is one of the few redeeming features of the character. That and the amusing Spike-Angel interactions. Spike was the sort of person who spreads enthusiasm, much as Willow or Fred did. This to me is the ultimate measure by which a person is determined likeable. There is almost nothing Spike takes too seriously, which I consider to be a virtue.

And I would say Spike had more "depth" to him than Angel. Spike could be both pathetic and heroic, scary and comforting, bad and good. His character actually evolved. Was the Angel of AtS season 5 really different than the Angel of BtVS season 2? If the differences are there, they are quite subtle, compared to how much every other character on both shows changed.

Also? Spike is just that much hotter, with that tasty faux-british accent. I can't deny that that influences me in my choice.

As a side note- I'm watching Season 5 (having never seen 2-4) and I don't understand exactly what Angel does at W&H. In Angel Investigations, he clearly had the central role as tracker and fighter, but at W&H? Gunn does all the managerial stuff. Does Angel do anything but sign papers and occasionally dismember clients? The question's been eating at me all day.

"it has some sweet character deaths -- I mean moments!" - Joss Whedon

STAKETHELURK

Monday, January 23, 2006 4:22 AM

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Originially posted by VisitingMyIntentions:
As a side note- I'm watching Season 5 (having never seen 2-4) and I don't understand exactly what Angel does at W&H. In Angel Investigations, he clearly had the central role as tracker and fighter, but at W&H? Gunn does all the managerial stuff. Does Angel do anything but sign papers and occasionally dismember clients?

Angel is CEO and President of Wolfram & Hart, Los Angeles. This means that he is ultimately in charge, the final arbiter of anything Gunn or Wes or whomever comes up with. Gunn is their legal expert, so he’s the one who deals with most of the technical issues and the speaking of the legalese. But Angel is the overall manager of things.

Which is not to say that he’s necessarily a good one. He’s not fond of just sitting behind a desk while everyone else does fieldwork. And because a large institution like Wolfram & Hart largely runs itself, he doesn’t necessarily have much of import to do even at his desk. I guess his most important role as far as the W&H system goes is simply to be there. Don’t know how far into Season 5 you’ve gotten, so I can’t really expand much on what else Angel gets up to while he’s there. But essentially, he has a vast amount of power at his disposal but is immensely frustrated by it because he can’t exercise that power except by proxy. That is, he’d rather go out and do things rather than tell people to do them.

So I guess, in the end, your question is the same one Angel is asking himself. Anyway, keep watching and hopefully all will become clear.

I hope you enjoy the rest of the season, it’s my personal favorite.

LAMIASONG

Monday, January 30, 2006 3:21 AM

A little trivia:

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Originally posted by VisitingMyIntentions:

As a side note- I'm watching Season 5 (having never seen 2-4) and I don't understand exactly what Angel does at W&H. Does Angel do anything but sign papers and occasionally dismember clients? The question's been eating at me all day.
"it has some sweet character deaths -- I mean moments!" - Joss Whedon

During the filming of this "Oh My GODDESS!" s5, DB had to go through some rough knee surgery... it must of been fun for them -working that in before realising that as CEO, Angel could just sit around quite a lot and do that ever boring brooding

... Which as it happens without giving the story away- (have you finished watching it yet?) He didn't have that much time to brood because of Blondie Bear. Yey!

I love Blondie Bear, he fought so hard to get that soul... well a few days in desert with a couple of demons...

Also- watch season 3-AtS a favourite with some very good eps for all characters. Waiting In The Wings. 'Nuff said.

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WTE

Sunday, February 12, 2006 7:12 AM

Angel. I hope I don't get killed for this, but I thought season 5 was the weakest season of Angel. Not to say it was bad, by any means, I just enjoyed the first four much more for some reason.

Still, the finale was pretty awesome.

HONKS

MALSGIRL

Sunday, February 12, 2006 7:18 AM

Spike no contest! I have to say I was never a big fan of Angel until I...cough...started to read Buffy books, then I got it. But Spike is no contest better, as far as I'm concerned.

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