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POSTED BY: Rodwy
UPDATED: Saturday, January 21, 2006 20:46
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SIGMANUNKI

Saturday, January 21, 2006 6:39 AM

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Originally posted by Rodwy:

Well the theory was made back in the 50's and if there were any inconsistencies they would have been filtered out. Plus even though its not based on true quantum mechanics, It is a different theory with ties to quantum mechanics.

You're making a lot of assumptions here.

From the article:

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But this thing is not around the corner; we first have to prove the basic science is correct and there are quite a few physicists who have a different opinion.
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Please actually read the article before you start telling me things that are in it that actually aren't in it. You can read that as, you said that the theory had basically been worked out, which this article itself contradicts.

Things are only "filtered out" over time if people actually work to do that. Which in this case they haven't. This theory has basically been sitting on the shelf all that time.

Oh, and for those that are interested in the actual paper (google is our friend

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http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1680

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SIGMANUNKI

Saturday, January 21, 2006 6:42 AM

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Originally posted by Rodwy:

Anti matter could be collected from certian types of comets, but there would be certian risks upon re-entering the atmoshpere.

Thank you for proving that you have no clue what you're talking about. Come back when you've learned science from not science-fiction novels.

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RODWY

Saturday, January 21, 2006 6:45 AM

The stuff not mentioned in the article comes from my studies I have been studing basic quatuam mechanics and anti-matter and all that advanced stuff for 3 years I think I know the lot of it.

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RODWY

Saturday, January 21, 2006 6:47 AM

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Quote:
Originally posted by Rodwy:

Anti matter could be collected from certian types of comets, but there would be certian risks upon re-entering the atmoshpere.

Thank you for proving that you have no clue what you're talking about. Come back when you've learned science from not science-fiction novels.

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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki

Look at my last post, I am a gifted youg teen and have studied this for a time. Look up anti-matter and you will learn that it is found naturally in certian comets and other things from the solar system.

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Mal: Define Interesting
Wash: Oh god, Oh god, We're all gonna die?

SIGMANUNKI

Saturday, January 21, 2006 6:50 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Rodwy:

The stuff not mentioned in the article comes from my studies I have been studing basic quatuam mechanics and anti-matter and all that advanced stuff for 3 years I think I know the lot of it.

So, you started learning this stuff when you were 12? Sure.

If you actually did, then you wouldn't be calling it all that "stuff." You'd be able to argue on physics terms.

So, put you're money where your mouth is and tell me about all these anti-matter comets that are flying around. Please provide links to the articles on the arXiv that support what you say.

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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki

SIGMANUNKI

Saturday, January 21, 2006 6:51 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Rodwy:

Look at my last post, I am a gifted youg teen and have studied this for a time. Look up anti-matter and you will learn that it is found naturally in certian comets and other things from the solar system.

Look at the time stamp of my posts and you'll see that I hadn't the chance to read your post before I posted. Gifted, eh?

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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki

RODWY

Saturday, January 21, 2006 7:05 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Quote:
Originally posted by Rodwy:

The stuff not mentioned in the article comes from my studies I have been studing basic quatuam mechanics and anti-matter and all that advanced stuff for 3 years I think I know the lot of it.

So, you started learning this stuff when you were 12? Sure.

If you actually did, then you wouldn't be calling it all that "stuff." You'd be able to argue on physics terms.

So, put you're money where your mouth is and tell me about all these anti-matter comets that are flying around. Please provide links to the articles on the arXiv that support what you say.

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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki

http://www.matter-antimatter.com/

Explains about matter anti-matter comets that have collieded with earth, the last one being in the early 1900's. It also has stuff about part of the reaction of a comet getting to close to the sun has to do with antimatter.

I will get more if you want.

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RODWY

Saturday, January 21, 2006 7:07 AM

Here's another interesting fact.

On April 22, 2002, the announcement was made that comets were discovered to be natural sources of antimatter.

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RODWY

Saturday, January 21, 2006 7:17 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SigmaNunki:

So, you started learning this stuff when you were 12? Sure.

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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki

Well when I was 12 barely studied it. But in the past year I've gotten to study a lot more, I don't use scietific terms cause I really just don't like to as it seems to confuse most people, and I found that explaining it sipmly is a lot easier, for all of us.

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RPLACKETT

Saturday, January 21, 2006 10:39 AM

the problem with antimatter as an energy source (quite appart fomr wehre to get more then a few atoms of the stuff and the ENORMOUS amount of energy you require to confine it away from real matter) is how to actually turn it into a useful energy source. This isnt just some sort of battery you can turn on and get infinite electricity (whihc is what 'Z' runs on not plasma conduits or any trekbabble)

You need to tuen what is basically a VERY large source of EXTREMLY high energy photons (and a metrick-f*ckton or other MUCH nastyier radioactive things) somehow into electricity, in a reliable manner. The problmes faced by experimental machines such as JET and ITER where at the proposed operational radiation levels the very concerete of the building startsa to crumble after a couple of years are an indiacation of what we will have to overcome with the next generation of fusiuon machines, let alone antimatter.

Now im afraid i have to say just because somone can write a website about antimattre comets really REALLY dosent mean they exist im afraid. It isnt really quatum mechanics you ned to look at when dealing with these thigns but a subset called High Energy Physics (particle physics). (And if you have read angels and deamon by dan brown and believed a WORD of it please revaluate your scientific understanding)

The simple reason we know there are NO large deposits of antimatter out there floating round the glaxy (let alone the solar system) is that they would shine like the daystar. when antimatter (antiprotons etc) and normal matter meet they annihilate and produce the aforementiond photons. There is enough normal matter in the solar wind and interstellar space for the boundries between regions of antimatter and normal matter to be ENORMOUSLY lumionous. Astronomers would have easily seen them, and people HAVE looked.

This leads to the question why is there so littel antimatter out there and the answer is a technical thing called CP violation, which reoughly reanslates to a slight asymmetry between the way matter and antimatter behave - they arent *quite* mirror images, and these small deviations are enough to (over the age of the universe) eat up all the antimatter.

Not wishing to pour cold water on the whole enterprise id suggest confined singularites may be a way to go for starship power ;]

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