What are your thoughts on god? Part 3

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CHRISTHECYNIC

Friday, January 20, 2006 3:22 PM

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Originally posted by Jonus:
I don't understand something about people who don't believe in God. You must believe in God, you just deny it. Otherwise you would have killed yourself by now. If you don't believe in anything then why do you go on living?

I think the most important sentance of your question is the last one:
"If you don't believe in anything then why do you go on living?"
The truth is everyone believes in something, even the philiosophers that claim not to. God isn't the only thing to believe in.

Some people believe in other people, and that is enough to go on living. Some have faith in science. Some believe in curiosity, or pleasure, or power, or love, or joy, or any number of other things.

CHRISISALL

Friday, January 20, 2006 3:36 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Definitions as to what God™ is vary.

Thanks for the biggest laugh I've had in weeks! I'm still wiping tears from my eyes.

I guess the Ten Commandments are copyrighted now...

Commercial Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Friday, January 20, 2006 4:02 PM

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:

If it is the latter, trust me, god will plague us all one way or another until we hit the grave, through people and things; for all there is no escape which is rather sad because some of us want to escape.

I wish God had minded his own business and left creation of earth and humans alone....especially me; I was doing quite fine in the world of the unliving.

As one who more likely follows the words of Buddha than Christ, I must say that there is, in my opinion, no 'world of the unliving', you were here, you are here, and you will be here, and everywhere.
You are one atom of a cosmic explosion, part of the whole.
I've been where you are emotionally (I think), and boy am I glad I stayed me in this life.
It's so short, it'll be over to begin again before we blink.
Please drop rejection of the negative and seek to embrace the positive (Gee Dr. Phil, that didn't sound trite, did it?)...
...well, it's simple, just not easy.

One thing I heard a long time ago:
Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem (plus, by my way of thinking, you'll just come back to deal with the same unresolved sorrow, and that'll REALLY suck if you come back as a cat or a tree- unable to put words to your pain, your best chance is right now)

Maybe I read too much into your post, if so, OOPS!

But if not, just want you to know you can make it through, if not laughing, at least serene.

Time and meditation don't hurt, either Chrisisall

EST120

Friday, January 20, 2006 4:09 PM

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Originally posted by cartoon:
Does this make me think that God has made a mistake? To the contrary. He never promised a rose garden -- in this life.

I agree.

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We can't see the whole picture. Heck, we can't see hardly any of it. We don't expect infants to fully comprehend why we make them do certain things and prohibit them from doing others. And God is so far above us, that the difference in wisdom between Einstein and an amoeba is indistinguishable. How then can we question our Creator?

While it's not my place to tell anyone else what to do, it would be my desire that you would seek Him and trust Him. He will show you the way -- one step at a time.

I also agree. I think this is a fundamental part of faith. Trust in God is so difficult to do during times of trouble, as you seem to be experiencing. I pray your faith never wavers and I pray things turn brighter for you.

THESOMNAMBULIST

Friday, January 20, 2006 4:27 PM

God is a construct of man, primitive man at that.

I have no belief in a god or gods or higher being of any kind. I don't believe in an afterlife or any kind of heaven or hell.

I'm interested in the 'belief' of a god though. As this world has been fashioned out of such beliefs and I exsist in this world....And I frequently marvel at the way in which god/gods have been celebrated ie, churches, catherdrals, cities, art, literature etc over the years and the cultures that have arisen as a consequence.

But I don't believe and I have no faith.

That may all change, as a life with nothing to believe in is possibly missing the point, but I'll have to wait and see about that as I near my twilight years, when I have acquired the necessary experience to reflect upon my time on this blue spinning orb of ours.

The
Somnambulist

www.cirqus.com

CARTOON

Friday, January 20, 2006 4:39 PM

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Originally posted by est120:
I pray your faith never wavers and I pray things turn brighter for you.

Thanks. No one can snatch me out of my Father's hand, nor anything come into my life He doesn't want there. May not be pleasant, but it's best.

Easier sayin' that when the roof ain't fallin' in on yer head, but it's just as true when it is as when it ain't.

CHRISISALL

Friday, January 20, 2006 4:49 PM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
But I don't believe and I have no faith.

My belief in God can be summed up this way: Star Trek: The Motion Picture.
"This. Simple human feeling..."
We make it up as we go, and if we're comfortable with that, all is cool.
If we're not [comfortable with that], we turn to an organization to give us structure.

Sombnambulist, you're like Mal, you have belief. It need not be specifically of God right now, or even ever. But here you are...

Shepherd Chrisisall

CHRISTHECYNIC

Friday, January 20, 2006 9:57 PM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
But I don't believe and I have no faith.

I have trouble believing that, everything is based on faith. Everything.

If you have no faith than you have no belief, which you also claim, but I can not see how that is possible. Do you believe you are reading words a human being has posted? Don't you at least believe you are reading words?

If you do think about how much you have to take for granted to believe that, how many levels upon levels of faith.

OAK

Friday, January 20, 2006 10:17 PM

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I have trouble believing that, everything is based on faith. Everything.

If you have no faith than you have no belief, which you also claim, but I can not see how that is possible. Do you believe you are reading words a human being has posted? Don't you at least believe you are reading words?

If you do think about how much you have to take for granted to believe that, how many levels upon levels of faith.

Faith? hehe..

It is amazing the notion, how a book of short stories writen by men gives people faith. Faith is a human condition that comes with wisdom. It doesn't have a thing to do with the short stories. There are many other books like the bible out there. Why don't you belive in them they came first?

My advice would be to stop living for something you "think or have faith" is real and live for the things you know are real. Your family, friends and the world around you that is being destroyed to print more Bibles and build more churches.

WINDWALKER

Friday, January 20, 2006 10:46 PM

What are my thoughts on God?
He's been good to me.

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.

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