Hollywood is trash ,too political ,and UNFAIR

POSTED BY: Windwalker
UPDATED: Saturday, January 21, 2006 07:38
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FINN MAC CUMHAL

Friday, January 20, 2006 12:19 PM

I don't know anything about De-Lovely, but Alexander stunk. However, this just proves my point. Alexander came out in 2004 and so did De-Lovely. These movies would seem to all a part of the exact same phenomenon.

Oh, he's so full of manure, that man! We could lay him in the dirt and grow another one just like him.
-- Ruby

CAUSAL

Friday, January 20, 2006 1:15 PM

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Originally posted by Kent:
The gay agenda!
The widespread homosexual conspiracy!
The enormous pressure from society to make you fornicate with people of your own gender!
Hollywood constantly forcing you to watch movies with gay people in them!

It's madness! Madness!

Give me a break. It's a great movie, and getting the attention and credit it deserves... deal with it.

Actually, I believe that the point isn't so much that this will make people become gay; rather, the idea seems to be to normalize homosexuality in a culture that has historically been hostile to it.

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QUEENOFTHENORTH

Friday, January 20, 2006 3:59 PM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I don't know anything about De-Lovely, but Alexander stunk. However, this just proves my point. Alexander came out in 2004 and so did De-Lovely. These movies would seem to all a part of the exact same phenomenon.

Oh, he's so full of manure, that man! We could lay him in the dirt and grow another one just like him.
-- Ruby

Yeah, Alexander was quite possibly one of the worst movies I've ever seen. The sad part is, I really wanted it to be good. I love the story of Alexander the Great. But the movie - ewwgh.

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THECOLLECTOR

Friday, January 20, 2006 6:43 PM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I don't know anything about De-Lovely, but Alexander stunk. However, this just proves my point. Alexander came out in 2004 and so did De-Lovely. These movies would seem to all a part of the exact same phenomenon.

Okay here's one... go watch "The Lion in Winter" with Kathrine Hepburn...

CARTOON

Friday, January 20, 2006 6:51 PM

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Originally posted by TheCollector:
Okay here's one... go watch "The Lion in Winter" with Kathrine Hepburn...

I've seen "The Lion In Winter", and the bit I believe you're referring to was just a passing reference, hardly a full-blown, in your face endorsement like in many of today's films. Granted, that was then, and this is now, and things have changed a whole lot since then.

BTW, that passing reference is based on an essentially unproven historical assumption about Richard I. I've read things which show things were one way, while other things show they were the other way. Of course, given that homosexuals weren't applauded for their behavior in the 12th century as they are today, there would be little written evidence if Richard actually were, so it's practically impossible to prove, one way or the other.

As a side note, that film features one of my favorite exchanges of character dialogue in any movie, ever. The "Let's strike a flint and find out" line, and the bits which immediately preceeded it.

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PINBALLWIZARD

Friday, January 20, 2006 7:28 PM

It's just the nature of Hollywood (and many american buisnesses in general) to find some new idea that captivates, intrigues, or outrages the population, then suck it's potential dry. Then they move on to the next new idea. This has been going on for more than 200 years, since the pre-dawn of the Industrial Age, and there's no way it's going to stop now. Buisness and art is frequently a bad combination.

NEVERED

Friday, January 20, 2006 9:49 PM

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Originally posted by cartoon:
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Originally posted by nevered:
Cartoon and Windwalker: have you even watched the movie?

No, I haven't seen the film. I don't go to see films in which I have no interest.

In other words, you're complaining that a movie you've never seen doesn't deserve an award?

who the hell are you to judge?

you haven't even seen it!

CARTOON

Friday, January 20, 2006 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by nevered:
In other words, you're complaining that a movie you've never seen doesn't deserve an award?

who the hell are you to judge?

you haven't even seen it!

And, apparently YOU didn't bother to read my entire post. Or you'd have seen the sufficiently detailed reason about why I didn't go and waste my money on something, based upon specific, minutely-detailed reviews from sites I respect and trust.

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Friday, January 20, 2006 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by queenofthenorth:
Yeah, Alexander was quite possibly one of the worst movies I've ever seen. The sad part is, I really wanted it to be good. I love the story of Alexander the Great. But the movie - ewwgh.

Yeah I waited a long time for the movie too. Now there is just the DiCaprio movie about Alexander, which might never be finished, but I hate Colin Farrell, because he made me look forward to a DiCaprio movie. Damn him.

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Okay here's one... go watch "The Lion in Winter" with Kathrine Hepburn...

So what? Looking for some isolated incident is just skirting the issue. All this means is that all those people that claim the gay issue was faux pas before this recent Liberal trend are probably wrong. The issue has and does creep up in movies when it is warranted, but it doesn’t just naturally creep up in 5 major movies within 2 years of each other, four of them winning or being nominated for major awards. The only one that wasn’t nominated or awarded was so awful that it was painful to watch. I’m sorry, but there’s no way to spin this. This whole gay trend with Hollywood is totally forced. It’s just their little fad, so that they can sit around in coffee shops and pat each other on the back for being so damn Liberal.

Oh, he's so full of manure, that man! We could lay him in the dirt and grow another one just like him.
-- Ruby

STORYMARK

Friday, January 20, 2006 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by cartoon:

It's about how Hollywood goes all googoo-eyed over radical crap and bows down to itself as the purveyor of progression, when all it's doing is alienating a huge chunk of it's audience by it's self-aggrandizing behavior of material so far to the left, that a majority of Americans wouldn't wipe their posteriors with it.

So, no one wants to see it. Yet, it's a few days away from outgrossing Serenity, much of which was accumulated before it's wide release. You can't put butts in the seats if they don't want to go, no matter how hard you push (as evidenced by Serenity).

Not that I've seen the movie, and as such, I will not comment on it's artistic merit. But I am eager to see it, as while I generally can't stand Jake Gyllenhal(sp), I consider Ang Lee to be a very talented director, and at least gets the benefit of a doubt.

Of course, I'll have to wait for DVD, since our local theatre owner doesn't think we should make the choice to see the movie ourselves.

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