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Am I the only one who doesn't actually like Buffy?

POSTED BY: Quixotic
UPDATED: Friday, January 20, 2006 05:05
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Thursday, January 19, 2006 1:57 AM

There. I admit it. The topic says it all.

It's possible that the three or four episodes I caught were simply abberations, but I found the whole thing a bit silly, if not patronizing. The episode with the beer that "de-evolves" people springs to mind.

This is why I'm glad that Joss kept a tight rein on Firefly. There are no bad episodes, just some which aren't as great as the great episodes.

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Thursday, January 19, 2006 2:02 AM

I unfortunately never got a chance to watch it, literally. So i can't exactly comment. I didn't have the channel until after the show was done. I'd love to watch the DVDs though, but I really can't afford them at the moment.

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Thursday, January 19, 2006 2:06 AM

The show definitly dipped after it switched networks, but it was still a great show. Worse than fantastic can still be great.

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

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Thursday, January 19, 2006 2:10 AM

Ah.... yup, that's the way I used to think of Buffy. I'm not much into vampires or horror, and being a 41 year old male, didn't exactly relate to the troubles of a teenage girl. Not to mention I find SMG pretty annnoying and not the greatest actress around. With all that going against it, Buffy was a hard sell for me, even after I discovered the wonders of Firefly.

But a fellow Browncoat insisted so I forced myself to sit through four consecutive episodes from the third season. By the fourth episode I was hooked, hard. The thing is, much like Firefly, Buffy is about the characters. It's about family, and love and struggle and all the things you don't generally associate with vampire-slayin'.

Next time you get a chance, sit down to three or four episodes. Back to back if you can manage it. As you watch, look for what the monsters symbolize. There's a lot more going on than you're likely to notice if you're not looking for it, but Joss isn't particularly subtle in this and it's such an eye-opener once you see it. This isn't a show about killing vampires.

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Thursday, January 19, 2006 2:12 AM

If that's the limit of your experience, you probably did just get the aberrations. "Beer Bad" is widely considered one of the worst episodes of the series (though it does have some supporters).

It is entirely possible that "Buffy" just isn't your kind of juggle-ble gosling, but I recommend having a second go. The first season has its merits, but is definitely weaker than the rest of the series, so if you're interested but waffling, rent or buy the second season, where the show really starts to hit its stride, and watch the *whole* thing. Once you're done, you'll be able to tell whether it's really your thing or not.

And as for "Firefly," some would argue that "Heart of Gold" was actually something of a bad episode. And if "Firefly" had gone on for many seasons, as it should have, we would have occasionally been saddled with a clunker--it's the nature of the business.

Still, I really recommend you give the Buffster another shot. If it doesn't work out for you, I see nothing wrong with that... But then you have to try out "Angel."

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Thursday, January 19, 2006 2:42 AM

I'm less learned in the Buffy 'verse than I am of Angel, but I know of what you speak. There certainly are moments, even characters which I enjoy from Buffy, but overall, the story just never has captivated me like Angel, and certainly not Firefly.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Thursday, January 19, 2006 2:47 AM

I HATE YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Thursday, January 19, 2006 2:47 AM

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Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:03 AM

As someone on the BtVS newsgroup once noted: a bad Joss show is still orders of magnitude better than anything else on TV. It's all relative.

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Originally posted by StakeTheLurk:
The first season has its merits, but is definitely weaker than the rest of the series,

...

And if "Firefly" had gone on for many seasons, as it should have,

We'd now be talking about how its first season was also not quite up to the current standard. . .

Just reflect on that for a moment.

Shindig, Safe, OMR, Jaynestown, Out of Gas. . . They'd be the weaker episodes.

Damn Fox.

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Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dax82:
I HATE YOU ALL!!!!!!!!



You made my screen go all wide. What in the name of lamb is the problem?

Edited to add: Never mind.

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