River. Answers!!!
POSTED BY: 25MyTurn25
UPDATED: Thursday, January 14, 2010 22:22
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Originally posted by USMC:
River is Hot!
Not very qualified, but i totally agree ;)
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"Burn the land and boil the Sea, you can´t take the Sky from me..."
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It could also be a warning for anyone in general looking into River's mind (and her secrets she posseses) has a penalty. For example in "Ariel" the Blue Sun people kill off the policemen who process River because they do an interrogation of her.
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It could also be a warning to Jayne not to turn her in or kill her off because she is going to save their lives at the end of Serenity.
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Originally posted by 25MyTurn25:
3) In Ariel River has a whole scene on talking about "Christmas, and Coal and Don't look in the closet it's greedy." I was just wondering does anyone know the meaning behind that? Cause stuff like that doesn't sound just like random giberish.
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River
They took Christmas away.Came down the stairs for the shiny presents, but they took the tree and
the stockings. Nothing left but coal.
Jayne
Christmas?
Simon.
River, whata re you talking about?
River
Christmas. You can't open your
presents before.And don't look in the closet, either.That's greedy. It's not in the
spirit of the holiday.
My translation.
River
They aren't paying you. You were so excited about getting paid, came down with your hopes up, but instead your being arrested with us.
Jayne.
I have a bad feeling about what your saying.
Simon:
I have no clue. I really don't understand River
River.
You can't count on getting paid before. Don't look for bad ways of making money, its greedy. Its wrong to pretend to protect people and then sell them, not in the spirit of family.
thats my feelings anyway.
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Pretty sure that "Copper for a kiss" was a reference to Judas's betrayal of Jesus. It would makes sense being that River had been spending time with Book's Bible. Yeah, pretty sure about this one.
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Originally posted by danielwrightmusic:
Pretty sure that "Copper for a kiss" was a reference to Judas's betrayal of Jesus. It would makes sense being that River had been spending time with Book's Bible. Yeah, pretty sure about this one.
Copper? Judas? Huh?
Okay... this may be right. But maybe its just one of Rivers twistet memories. Maybe it´s just referring to Girls which "sell" a Kiss for a Copper?
Rivers way "tripping down memory lane" is some kind of disturbed, she cannot repress Memories like we can do; so every Moment in her past life is like the present for her, River can´t differentiate her memories.
Maybe it was just a Flashback, who knows?
Not everything has to mean more than it obviously does ;)
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But, but, its almost a direct quote from "Jesus Christ Superstar". Ugh, maybe I just grew up around to many bibles but it was the first thing that came to my mind when the words left her mouth during the episode. Ya know, cause Judas betrays Jesus for copper (pretty sure, the coins during that period) than ya know, kisses him on the cheek. Kinda how Jayne betrays River, minus the kiss and all. Which in my mind is why River says it in the first place, because she wants Jayne to kiss her, cause she has a crush on him, or not. It is quite possible however that I have no idea what I'm talking about.
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Yes. And maybe you´re right. But we´ll have to ask Joss for enlightenment ;)
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I thought Judas was paid thirty peices of silver, not copper?
I thought this line referred to the old practice of putting copper coins over a dead person's eyes, so they would be able to pay Charon's fee to cross over. Since River had just returned 'from the dead', she would have a couple of unused copper coins. Maybe a slight touch of River/Jayne shipping, there?
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Originally posted by PrincessRohannen:
I always figured that particular bit of gibberish to be a metaphor for Jayne's disappointment. Christmas is the reward that Jayne was looking forward to for turning the two of them in. When the fed stabbed Jayne in the back, he took away Christmas.
That's what I thought, too, PrincessRohannen, that she was telling the story of Jayne being betrayed by the greed of others, just as his own greed betrayed River and Simon.
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Also someone mentioned in ariel River says, "we're doing it backwards, going up the downslide." Or somehting like that. What is she talking about?
River - You belived her, made a face.
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