Watched Serenity for the first time last night

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UPDATED: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 19:51
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PRINCESSROHANNEN

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 4:12 PM

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Originally posted by fordaith:
I think one of the things about the Simon/River rescue scene is that Serenity picks them up. That would basically debunk the entire pilot episode of Firefly.

Was that serenity? I thought it was too small. I assumed that it was a craft run by those guys Simon talks about in the pilot. That would fit better, anyway.

AMITON

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 4:15 PM

There have been a few threads about breaks from canon between the movie and the series. All of them can be explained away, some with more difficulty than others. The ship issue shouldn't be, however. There's an assumption for someone who doesn't know the backstory that Serenity broke the Tams out, but the ship that actually does so is much smaller and is shaped pretty differently if you look closely.

Just had to throw that out there...didn't want to get into all of the BDTheories to smooth over the apparent inconsistancies, though.

Amiton.

FOLLOWMAL

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 4:18 PM

I don't believe the craft picking up Simon and River IS Serenity, it's a much smaller craft.

As it's been said here many times, Simon may not have told the crew in the show's story arc the whole truth of how he got River out.... he barely knew them! And I think the movie fits with the show about them, if you allow for that.

There are always mistakes in movies, Serenity has less than some of the others I've enjoyed over the years. Perhaps on the NEXT DVD release ( oh, joy!) those things will be fixed and we'll get somemore shiny extras!

"The war's long done. We're all just folk now."
Mal

OKCBROWNCOAT

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 4:41 PM

*SPOILER ALERT FOR COMICS!!!!!*

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The part that really pi$$ed me off in the comics is Shepherd Book hauling off and punching Mal... WTF? Totally out of character.

We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.

AMITON

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 4:55 PM

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Originally posted by okcbrowncoat:
The part that really pi$$ed me off in the comics is Shepherd Book hauling off and punching Mal... WTF? Totally out of character.

I don't think it's that far out of character. I am pretty sure Mal has had Book *really* close to doing exactly that more than once. Book has hit people more than once, and he has let it be known that he will do what he has to do more than once. For me, that particular exchange served a lot of purposes, and most of them became intentional *before* the punch on Book's part.

As always, though, that's just an opinion =)

Amiton.

NOSADSEVEN

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 6:13 PM

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Originally posted by okcbrowncoat:
The part that really pi$$ed me off in the comics is
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Shepherd Book hauling off and punching Mal...
WTF? Totally out of character.

First, it would be thoughtful of you to edit your post to warn of the specific comic spoilers you're discussing.

Second, to address your point...

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Book thought it was out of character too, or at least out of character for the person he was trying to be. That's why he detemined that he needed to leave.

One of the things I like so much about Joss's writing is that his characters often appear to do things "out of character", as do we all. It's because the characters are dynamic, they develop, they struggle. Frequently, Joss uses the changes in the characters to tell the story - for example, Mal. Mal was 'darker' in the movie...what does that tell us? Things aren't going well, raising tensions all around. Mal's not been dealing well with it. As it's his ship, this affects everyone else. The comics bear that out:

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They've had at least two jobs with no payoff (and no shortage of peril). Mal is not dealing well with Inara's leaving - which (as River alludes to) puts him in a position of not dealing well with anyone, particularly Book.

Mal is spiraling downward, and he has no way to deal with it but to keep moving forward. Unfortunately, that doesn't really meet anyone else's needs, thus Kaylee's sentiments in Serenity, "Captain'll drive us all off, one by one."

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Ain't. We. Just.

HAPPYBRAIN

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 6:56 PM

I agree. The lighting threw me the first time I watched the movie. The crew looked so tan. They must have done a job on a tropical planet somewhere. And although it's a neccessity for people who never watched the show, I hate having to go through all the character introductions. Still, it was a great movie and I will wtch it over and over and over...

FOLLOWMAL

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 7:37 PM

Just noticed you are new, HappyBrain. Welcome aboard!

Hope you will enjoy yourself and post often! We love hearin' from folks.

Don't forget to spread the world of Firefly/Serenity to others, I'm sure we all want a BDS= Big Damn Sequel!

Tanned huh? Yup, couldn't help but notice the Cap'n was a mite tan. Kinda liked it. That workin' out in the sun on a tropical planet'll do it to ya.

" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal

MATTEBLACK

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 7:46 PM

I read an artical in a Serenity movie guide where Whedon said the characters were intended to be much darker. The lighting and such was meant to heighten where their moods were at after hard times that were to have been in the unmade episodes.

FOLLOWMAL

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 7:51 PM

Read that same article MatteBlack. The darker, somber mood and lighting were intentional by Joss.
Seems like I recall he even spelled out specific lighting for each character.

I loved the movie, just the way it is and I'd love to have more stories in any form I can get them in! But I'd prefer a movie or the series back!

"Just don't... fiddle with it." Simon

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