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Watched Serenity for the first time last night

POSTED BY: Kibbster
UPDATED: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 19:51
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Wednesday, January 18, 2006 9:41 AM

Great movie!
But it was weird, don't know if anyone else found this but the first hour I was noticing all the little differences from Firefly.
The crew looked different, there was more conflict between them, Serenity was lit differently and it was quite a surreal feeling watching the movie after weeks of watching firefly.

I guess it was much like watching ST:TNG and then watching the first TNG movie...Everything was kind of the same but darker and more sombre.

Other than that River.... Wow! :D
Wish I could fight like that lol

Great movie though, going to have to watch it a few more times to get over the strangeness though


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Wednesday, January 18, 2006 10:17 AM

Yeh I felt like that after watching Firefly. Serenity is alot darker the way its lit and the cinematography is different. I felt detached from the whole thing. TV cinematography is alot different than Cinema. There's alot more close in cropped shots. The lighting is alot brighter. The action alot less exaggerated. So with that and the 'ground level' shakey cam mixed with zoom and misframing it feels all alot more visceral and real and as a result involves you more. Serenity just feels like tou are watching from a distance.

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Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:54 PM

When I watched Serenity it was kind of bothersome how different the characters seemed. They didn't seem as laid back as in Firefly. Simon deffinitely was the most "different" to me. Mal was somewhat but still kind of Mal. They both seemed like darker characters.
Serenity was a really good movie and like Joss has said something like Serenity is not Firefly. The differences weren't so large that it went off course. It stayed the course just in a different way...a movie way.

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Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:56 PM

Exactly!
So glad I'm not the only one who found this

Still, I'll watch it again tonight and see how I feel about it after that.

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Wednesday, January 18, 2006 3:04 PM

Is there anyone here who has read the comic books too, and can tell us (me) whether or not they go some way to redressing the balance by introducing additional elements of tension/character?

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Wednesday, January 18, 2006 3:17 PM



I felt a little the same way the first time I saw the movie, Kibbster, but as time has gone on and with repeated viewings, that feeling fades.
The story in the movie is so much darker than the last episodes of the series, and things are harder for the crew and that plays out in the movie and the more you watch it the more you connect to the crew again, just on a different level.
Like the series though, the movie is one of those that repeated viewings add up to more and more enjoyment. And more understanding.
I also love how each time I watch it, I pick up on stuff I didn't see or hear the last time. That's true of the show too, by the way. And I've seen them both A LOT of times now, lol.





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Wednesday, January 18, 2006 3:18 PM

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Is there anyone here who has read the comic books too, and can tell us (me) whether or not they go some way to redressing the balance by introducing additional elements of tension/character?

IMO, the comics flat out sucked. Hate to say it too.
The characterizations were even MORE deviant from
FF than Serenity was. The comics in no way
advanced the characters, nor the plot so much that
it matters to the 'verse. There were also quite a
few things in the comics that just were not Joss.
Most of the BDHs were just WAY out of character.
The comics ain't FF and they ain't Serenity. I'm
actually sorry they happened (well, the cover art
is pretty nice....)
I'm sure many see it differently.

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Wednesday, January 18, 2006 3:24 PM

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Originally posted by Kibbster:
Great movie!
But it was weird, don't know if anyone else found this but the first hour I was noticing all the little differences from Firefly.
The crew looked different...



Even if it was only a bit, the crew (actors) understandably had aged since the series, to the point where I actually thought the opening rescue sequence was not/could not have been a flashback to River's original rescue, but was instead another fine mess River had gotten into and Simon was saving her from (that and the fact that in the series it wasn't Simon who did the original rescue).

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Wednesday, January 18, 2006 3:47 PM

I think one of the things about the Simon/River rescue scene is that Serenity picks them up. That would basically debunk the entire pilot episode of Firefly.

Also anyone else notice the little fudge on the info screen when the operative is getting Mal's bio? Do the math, it says 2468 for DOB. If you catch all the dates in the timeline, that would make Mal 50 in the movie. 50!! I think someone musta transposed the numbers, and it shoulda said 2486. (fyi, the movie roughly takes place in late 2517, early 2518)

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Wednesday, January 18, 2006 4:05 PM

I personally kind of enjoyed the comics. The story arc was a bit brief and things moved a little fast, but it was interesting.

I agree that not a thing happened to really progress the story or the characters, and I think that was pretty intentional. While the comics were intended as a segue between the series and the BDM, they couldn't move too much -- with the relatively small audience that the comics would reach, it would only cause more confusion and make it harder to contain the movie in a two hour capsule.

I don't think it's fair to say that the comics sucked or that they were out of character or non-Joss. I'm almost certain that the story arc was written by Joss, even if the actual dialog wasn't done by him. Likewise, I'm even more certain that Joss was much more involved in the direct control of the comics than he was on the novelization. Joss flat out said he barely was able to have cursory review over the novelization and he didn't want to get too involved lest it detract from other focus' of his attention. Also, in similar fashion, the movie wasn't the series - and couldn't be because of the restraints and medium, and as such, the comics could be neither the series nor the movie because it is a different medium and has different restraints.

Or at least that's my take =) I found the money I spent on the comics to be an investment, and I'm very happy with it! I guess maybe I didn't expect as much from them, so I wasn't as let down maybe?

Amiton.

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