VENTING MY ANGER at Harry Potter book 5

POSTED BY: TragicStory
UPDATED: Tuesday, August 5, 2003 16:20
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TRAGICSTORY

Wednesday, July 2, 2003 10:11 AM

More things that annoyed me but I forgot to mention. For 4.9 books we have been hearing how Valdemort only fears ONE wizard (beside harry) the great Dumbledore. We FINALLY get to what should have been the second best wizard fight of the book (right after the Last Battle in book 7)and it SUCKED. I mean REALLY SUCKED. It lasted maybe 2 pages.

Second one, AND I MAY BE WRONG Cronologically, but didn't Potter have a MIRROR that would let him talk to Sirrus at any time and place? WHICH WAS FORGOTTEN and a fire used instead. Because EVERYONE doesn't open presents from the person they love the most in world.

Why on earth did Dumbledore need the giants? I mean was it just a really bad plot line to get the giant in the forest (I know who he is, but am trying to avoid spoilers)It seemed so important to get the giants, but then nothing come from it.

Ditto for the D.A. I was expecting ALL of them to do something to defend Dumbledore, instead only Fred and George showed any loyalty/resistance.
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Finally, Doesn't it seem REALLY STUPID that Voldemort would have tried to infiltrate the Ministry of Magic instead of trying to get the prophecy from Dumbledore's office or the Seer herserlf? Considering that he managed to remove Dumbledore from Hogwarts before and that he was removed from Hogwarts on his own. All to get a prophecy that was so STUPID and contained nothing not previously known/assumed and pretty pointless to try and learn ****15**** years after the fact.

On a last note, I would really rather read the adventures of Fred and George opening up their store than another book like this one.

Anyone else think the Fred and George rebellion at Hogwarts was the best part of the book?

"Societies are supported by human activity, therefore they are constantly threatened by the human facts of self-intrest and stupidity." --Peter Berger

STRAYCAT

Wednesday, July 2, 2003 12:34 PM

Shame...

I really enjoyed the book. OTOH, I haven't bothered analysing it overmuch. I've found that doesn't really pay off for Harry Potter.

And too much of my mental energy's gone into analyses of Reloaded of late :)

Andy

TRAGICSTORY

Wednesday, July 2, 2003 12:54 PM

Have you ever read Matilda? THAT's what really got me annoyed in the first place.

PS. My favorite redwall book is Mossflower.

"Societies are supported by human activity, therefore they are constantly threatened by the human facts of self-intrest and stupidity." --Peter Berger

CHRISTHECYNIC

Wednesday, July 2, 2003 6:02 PM

Usual warning here are the spoilers.
I was surprised by Fred and George. I had never thought that they held back with their pranks for any reason other than a fear of expulsion, but we learned that their loyalty to Dumbledore played a key role in that, and was enough for them to keep going to a school they didn’t want to, that even their mother couldn’t make them stay at. That did seem to be the best part of the book.

Like I said before it felt like a fan fiction, a bad one at that, and not like a sequel.

For some reason she made the Voldemort fight lousy. The giants thing, it was in no way an appropriate follow-up, Dumbledore described them as a force to be reckoned with, here they were noting more than a dying race. Like the Spanish sending out an envoy to the last 40 Aztecs for fear they’d ally themselves with the English.

Follow-ups have been rather bad though; for example does anyone remember how Ron and Harry learned where the elder Malfoy kept his illegal stuff. Information that could have had him arrested before the end of the second book.

I think the prophesy line isn’t nearly as nonsensical as most of the rest of the book. After all, the reason Voldemort was after the prophecy was because he didn’t know what it said, so he had no idea how useless it was.

STRAYCAT,
I found that analyzing really did pay off for the third and fourth books. They just seemed to get better the more you did it. The exception was Harry’s parents they died in the order of dad, mom so when they came back (in reverse order) it should have been mom, dad. That is a very minor complaint however, so overall the analyzing had favorable results.

CONSTNLYTALKIN

Tuesday, August 5, 2003 4:20 PM

I believe you are completely wrong and should have thought more about the actual plot of the book in regards to why JK may be making Harry become more angry and irritable. The prophecy stated at the end of the book states that either Harry must kill Voldemort or Voldemort must kill Harry. Harry at the present time does not have the right mind set or enough anger built up inside of him for him to just kill somone in cold blood. I believe very strongly JK is doing a wonderful job of slowly bringing these characteristics into Harry's character. By slowly building up his anger and animosity towards the world, she will be able to get him to reach a climax where he is angry enough to kill. This is turn may change the way we think about Harry, but in writing terms is an absolutly brilliant idea.

I also agree with the post after yours that states that this book made Harry seem more real, I could not agree more. Anyone one of us put in a situation like Harry has been put in would probally be just as angry if not more so then he was in this book. I don't think you have the right to bash an author unless you think you could do better, and judging by the book sales and how many people do like the book I highly doubt you could. Instead of getting mad cause harry doesn't fit the way you want him to be, look at the book as a piece of literature doing exactly what a piece of literatire is supposed to do. relay a story using things such as twists and turns and surprises.

I am an author myself and understand how hard it is to come up with good plots and chracter especially plots that actually make sense and dont have holes in them like dreams do, and I must say I believe JK is doing an excellent job at doing her job.

Samantha...If you have comments please e-mail them back at OrangeBug16@hotmail.com as I most likely will not be comming back to this site

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