Suspension of Disbelief

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CITIZEN

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 8:49 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by nosadseven:
Breaking manoeuvres such as we see when Serenity breaks atmo in the title sequence...

That would be the ones. Those two big thrusters kicking off like that would lose Serenity a lot of momentum.

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CITIZEN

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 8:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Haekeldrache:
@Citizen: We seem to have different Numbers... I think that is the danger of googling around ;)

Crematoriums operate at different temperatures depending on who manufactured the equipment, how long it's been operating etc. That was an upper limit; yours are probably right for a certain type of machine(s) I imagine. The numbers for the shuttle re-entry heat is based around the heat tolerances of the thermal tiles. You can workout precisely what the temperatures are, but there isn't much point

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RUSSELL

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 12:06 PM

i think that the heat from entering and exiting the atmosphere is caused by friction and high speed.

for an object to reach and maintain orbit around the earth it has to be traveling at 18,000 miles an hour (consider that it falls around the earth).

when an object traveling 18,000+ miles an hour, out in the vacuum of space, hits the dense atmosphere the friction causes intense heat.

at least i think thats how it works. so if they just went slowly ;) it wouldnt be so bad.

PDCHARLES

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:28 PM

Thank you Citizen and NS7:

I hope we are not still using shuttle re-entry tactics 500 hundred years in the future.

How bout this? How did the hover Mule work?

U gonna be smart here Riva?!?!

REAVERMEAT

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:34 PM

Maybe the reavers are constantly replacing the bodies on the ships and doing it in space?

Even though they are feral they still know how to operate starships. So, I think they can manage to realize the benefits of the space suits when attaching the desecrated corpses of people in space.

JAYRO

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by pdcharles:
Thank you Citizen and NS7:

I hope we are not still using shuttle re-entry tactics 500 hundred years in the future.

How bout this? How did the hover Mule work?

U gonna be smart here Riva?!?!

I would've thought that the hover mule works using either an air cushion, like a regular hovercraft, or some kind of directable jets.

Come to that, how come nobody's floating about when Serenity's in space? By what means is the artificial gravity generated? Not trying to turn this into a trivia thread, but it's something that's been bugging me for a bit. Help an old man out!

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"I imagine that if it were fear, my eyes would be wider."

KENT

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by russell:
i think that the heat from entering and exiting the atmosphere is caused by friction and high speed.

That it is caused by friction is a common misconception. Well... certainly part of it will come from friction, but it's negligable when compared to the heat generated when the air in front of the vessel compresses.
It's heat generated from compression, not friction.

CHRISTHECYNIC

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Shiny:
Has anyone commented on the fact that when Mal tells the crew to tie some of the bodies to the nose of the ship, he tosses Simon *ROPE*?!?!

You want to see how different perceptions can be?

Never even occured to me to think that was real rope. In the sense we mean today at least. I suppose anything with wound fibers is rope, perhaps the defintion is even looser than that. I mean climber's rope is hardly the stuff I see at a shipyard and they're both called rope.

I just figured, ya know, people say things and don't mean them. Some people say I tie my dog out, but I don't, nor do I chain her, I clip the dog to a metal wire covered in a plastic sheath. Very few people say, "Clip the dog out," not do a lot of people call it a metal wire in a plastic cover, a lot of people call it a chain, but it isn't.

So Mal says, "Rope them together," and throws Simon something that is gray and coiled. I can honestly say it didn't occur to me to consider it was spun hemp. If it weren't for the fact it was going on the outside of a space ship that's exactly what I would assume.

It's like the word reptile I guess, when someone says, "He bought a reptile," you think an iguana gecko or anole. When someone says, "He bought a reptile bus," you think a segmented bus with joints that allow it to turn corners. (Also known as a snake bus.)

If he had said to rope something up inside Serenity I'd assume it was normal rope, unless I had a reason to think non-normal stuff was cheaper. But since he said outside hemp didn't cross my mind.

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By the way, the bodies are indeed bolted on. Roped as well.

SHINY

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:30 PM

Yeah, I guess different people perceive or react to things differently; that bit with the corpses and rope, and the fact that getting shot in the back with a laser/stun gun barely fazes Mal were such a stretch that they almost took me out of the movie.

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IMALEAF

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:40 PM

Really in theory it could be hot enough to cause the paint to fuse with the metal. But hey Sci-fi really, they all have their faults. Going from planet to planet in a couple days. It would take us two years to get to Mars. Good question though. But I don't know

~~River: Bible's broken. Contradictions, false logics. Doesn't make sense.~~

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