What are your thoughts on god? Part 2

POSTED BY: christhecynic
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 14:34
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RITAK7

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:39 AM

Tom Delay brought me back to believing. How a man without talent, nor intelligence, nor charisma and certainly not good looks (face it good looks help) could reach such heights of power and influence sniff..sniff anyone else smell a Faustian bargain.

I do believe in Jesus Christ and that he sacrificed himself to save the human race and that we have proved very much unworthy of that sacrifice. But though my belief in Christ gives me comfort and hope I do not denigrate the faiths of others. Yaweh Allah and the Christian God are all one in the same. This is the God who revealed itself-gender is so banal i can't believe God is one or the other-to Abraham.

Prosleytizing fundamentalist and atheists are just out to ruin everyone's day. If God would exclude Ghandi from eternal salvation then this is not a god i worship and have no desire to honour. Since this is a SciFi site you should all be familar with 'Q'from Star Trek. If God really hates fags or those that write with their left hand I have no desire to please this petualant and capricious being, wheter it is omnipotent or not.
I believe the messages of Christ and Mohamed and all the Hebrew prophets have been corrupted by man. Man rationalizes his desires to suit his purposes and justifies selfserving vindictive exculsionary dogma while under the sway of evil.
It seems like these fire breathing so called Christians really must worship Zues rather than the God of Abraham. Remeber God told Abraham to sacrifice his son to God and then stop him pretty much saying Dude..this is not what it is all about i am not petty or cruel" the best message I can take from Christianity is the Golden Rule, which i am sure must be incarnated in other religions in equally handy sayings, DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE DONE TO YOU
Oh FYI alot of these religious right wing fanatics that so avidly support Likud are supercessionists-that is they believe that the Covenant God made with the Jews will be superseded by their own-nice fellas huh?!

Anyone read the Screwtape Letters by C.S Lewis

STEPHANI

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:42 AM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
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Originally posted by stephani:
Now I didn't read much of the other thread, but here's where I stand, I believe in a Goddess and a God. As everything in nature has both female and male counterparts, it makes sense to me that it's the same with the Divine. I believe both (the Goddess and the God) are present in everything, including everyone, and aren't "above" us or "superior" to us because they are us.
Interesting. Is this a Taoist belief, some form of Wicca or just a personal assessment?

Oh, he's so full of manure, that man! We could lay him in the dirt and grow another one just like him.
-- Ruby

Sorry it took so long to get back to you!

Its a form of Wiccan belief system :)

And I guess the best way to explain it is that the God is of the Goddess. She 'gave birth' to Him so to speak. Technically there is one, but there is also the aspect of the God as well. I'm not very good at explaining it though. Lemme know if this answers your questions, if not, I can try again :)

RITAK7

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:16 AM

Why do you spell G-d? please let me know i am fascinated.

CARTOON

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:29 AM

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Originally posted by christhecynic:
If you mean, "it is time," rather than, "it may be," I shall make a part three, if you really me "it may be" we'll see what others think.

So, others, is it time for part 3?

Seriously. Am I the only one in here with dial-up?!!?!?!?

Don't start another thread just on my account, but the more posts in a thread, the longer it takes to load for me. Normally, I won't click on any thread with more than 50 posts (like this one), as I can wait weeks for it to load (slight exaggeration allowed).

Even 30-message threads take seemingly forever, those 3-digit threads are killers. I avoid them like the plague.

Seriously? Just me?!?!

GIZMO

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:02 AM

I'm a Catholic and believe that Jesus Christ died for our sins and rose from the dead.
I believe that God knows us better than we know ourselves and that His instruction is the right way.

History abhors a paradox.
-Kain

RITAK7

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:12 AM

where do you live? I struggle to make ends meet as i make a meagre $24k and live in Boston. But since i am a full time student-more like a full time dosser all the hours i have spent on this site tonight-internet access is imperative. I had dial up I hear you oh my god oh my god I was doing penance as i waited for the damn thing, then i got a special thru Comcast Cable internet for $20/month for 6 months when that ended i switched to RCN cable internet for 6 months and now that that is coming to an end i am signing on for a kick ass deal with Verizon DSL for $14.95/month with a one year contract. You should check it out it can save your sanity and your money!

AERIN

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 6:42 AM

Lots of good stuff in this thread.

My beliefs really don’t make any sense. I was raised Catholic, but I’m a scientist. A lot of the Christian doctrine doesn’t make sense to me – how could a loving god do things that are (in my opinion) worse than what I would ever do? I’m not perfect, but I wouldn’t condemn the unbaptised or disbelievers. Honestly, if hell existed, I don’t think I could send anyone there. Eternity is a long time to be tortured. So on one hand I say, “if there is a god, it’s a force of nature,” but then when I pass a car accident I pray that god will take care of them. My dad got a kidney transplant under conditions that seem pretty miraculous, so my first thought was to thank god. Of course, I would argue the existence of god can never be empirically proven.

I believe in god for purely emotional reasons. Around Valentine’s Day the kids at my parents’ church read a scripture that says “God is love”. That feels right to me. I believe in God because of love, beauty, and self-awareness. I don’t know what God is, but he/it doesn’t tell me what to do. I only believe in the devil insofar as evil is of our own making. Neither evil nor good exist in the animal kingdom, at least not by our perceptions. Hell is a place we make for ourselves when we treat others as we would NOT wish to be treated. Since I don’t really understand my own views, I can’t judge others, but I refuse to accept any religion that strays from the golden rule. And I won’t believe in god out of fear.

I agree that religion should be taught in school. Not what to believe, but what the world believes. I think it’s a crucial part of understanding history, understanding each other, and preventing a recurrence of past mistakes.

MATTIE

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 7:23 AM

Of course it doesn't matter if I feel like a minority in this discussion. What I believe is important to me, and I want others to know that. Maybe I should have said that instead. Excuuuuuse me! (Only joking, I know it's in your nature to be cynical, Chris.) Any other questions? (Do I really mean that?)

Wacky fun!

CHRISTHECYNIC

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:34 PM

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Originally posted by Mattie:
Of course it doesn't matter if I feel like a minority in this discussion. What I believe is important to me, and I want others to know that. Maybe I should have said that instead. Excuuuuuse me! (Only joking, I know it's in your nature to be cynical, Chris.)

I knew that, I just wanted to hear you say it, and not have others get the wrong idea (plus make sure I wasn't the one with the wrong idea.)

It's just that the way you said it sounded, to me, like it could be interpreted that you wouldn't care as much under different circumstances.

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This post is also notification, we will now have a Part 3, by request. I’ve never started something that got long enough for someone to request a part two before. Now there is a part three:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=16736

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