Suspension of Disbelief

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CHRISISALL

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:00 AM

I posess the title of PH.Duh

So nobody else noticed the two Hands Of Blue boy's cameo in the beginning of Serenity??

Chrisisall, also PH.D'oh!

HAEKELDRACHE

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:02 AM

This question is kind of macabre ...

Anyway, Google tells me that the bottom of a Space Shuttle is heatet up to between 1600°C to 1700°C.

Crematories are burning Corpses, using a temperature of 700°C to 900°C (the Bones need a little more "Power").

So, either the Ships in Serenity/Firefly aren´t taking this much friction Heat, or their Bones are reinforced in some Way - Or it´s Grandmaster Whedon´s will ;)

"Burn the land and boil the Sea, you can´t take the Sky from me..."

Haekeldrache is german for Crochetdragon

RITAK7

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:14 AM

Crochetdragon you are cool!
thanks for that bit of research i wish i could use Google that well
i can say several warm phrases (as well as a few chilly ones) in German but won't even attempt to spell them
i know it is a macabre subject but here's something evern more dark gross and disturbing-i think of it now that you brought up the crematories-out in Western Massachusetts a pound creamates the animals it puts down and taps that heat to heat the pound itself i mean bravo efficiency wise but eww poor puppies

PRINCESSROHANNEN

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:15 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by PrincessRohannen:

Now, if you want to start pointing out technological inconsistencies, let's talk about how all these people got to this new solar system from Earth that was but now their ships are only capable of interplanetary travel. What gives with that?
Generational ships, my dear. Again, Joss said so.
You can go anywhere if you got the time...

Chrisisall, who prefers sleeper ships hisself

Those poor generations!

Say these generational transports could cover 1 astronomical unit in a day (that's the distance from the sun to the Earth). That seems to be pretty close to the speeds that Serenity is capable of.

Proxima Centauri, the nearest star to Earth (aside from Sol), is 4.28 light-years away. That's roughly 270,667 astronomical units, or around 25,160,072,930,000 miles.

At the rate of 1 astronomical unit per day, it would take a ship 742 years to reach the nearest star from Earth. Assuming an average lifespan of 70 years, that's nearly eleven generations, not counting overlap.

And that's assuming that Proxima Centauri is the system Serenity flies around in. The other stars are even further out.

I suppose that desperate sort of journey is possible, given dire enough circumstances. It just doesn't seem very likely. After all, if your ships are technologically advanced enough to sustain that many generations, why go to all the trouble and risk of terraforming planets? Why not just build great big space stations right here in our own Solar system?

SAMEERTIA

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:16 AM

First off, RITAK7, you're likely to get a far better response if you use proper capitalization and punctuation. Your post is just to hard to read as it is.

Second, what most everyone else has said is correct. When I rewatched Serenity last weekend with Manitou, who's degree IS in astrophysics, he said that the heat of passing through atmosphere is mostly due to the speed at which we have to do it today.
Presumeably, by the time Serenity is set in, they have better control over exit and re-entry.

The point that he made, being a very valid one, is that the skeletons wouldn't hold together unless you coated them with something. The cartilege that joints are made up of would have decayed when the flesh burned away.

HAEKELDRACHE

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:25 AM

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out in Western Massachusetts a pound creamates the animals it puts down and taps that heat to heat the pound itself i mean bravo efficiency wise but eww poor puppies

What would you do if I´d tell you, that most of the Crematories use the Heat produced during the "disposal" of the bodys is used to warm up the holding area of the Building? ;)

"Burn the land and boil the Sea, you can´t take the Sky from me..."

Haekeldrache is german for Crochetdragon

RITAK7

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:29 AM

Haekeldache i'd say dude...whoa

PRINCESSROHANNEN

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Haekeldrache:
Quote:
out in Western Massachusetts a pound creamates the animals it puts down and taps that heat to heat the pound itself i mean bravo efficiency wise but eww poor puppies

What would you do if I´d tell you, that most of the Crematories use the Heat produced during the "disposal" of the bodys is used to warm up the holding area of the Building? ;)

"Burn the land and boil the Sea, you can´t take the Sky from me..."

Haekeldrache is german for Crochetdragon

Well, recycling is eco-friendly.

SHINYSEVEN2

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:31 AM

I don't know anything about astrophysics, but I'm better on etymology, so to answer your other question:
"fanwank" has two quite separate meanings. One of them is an angry dispute among fans, but the one mentioned in this thread is "an explanation devised by fans to harmonize an apparent contradiction in the source text." For example, what we see in the beginning of the movie vs. what Simon said in the pilot about River's rescue.

HAEKELDRACHE

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:32 AM

RITAK7: Thought so ;)

"Burn the land and boil the Sea, you can´t take the Sky from me..."

Haekeldrache is german for Crochetdragon

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