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What would you like to see explained/explored in the FF movie?

POSTED BY: TragicStory
UPDATED: Monday, August 4, 2003 16:08
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Friday, August 1, 2003 3:16 PM

Since a FF movie will be only 90 minutes to 2 hours long (about the same length as the pilot) there is really not very much time to explore all of the great things discussed here so far.

Also, we have to consider that the movie will have to attract more than just the current core fans (if there were enough fans to float a movie by themselves, then there would have been enough fans to give the show higher ratings) Not enough people saw the TV show to have a continuation of the series. That worked on long-running shows like X-Files, where everybody knew the characters.

The Firefly movie would have to start at the beginning, I believe, and I would personally be very happy if the movie turned out to be a retelling of the Serenity pilot. I really love that pilot and a movie version would be able to expand on it (more Reavers, more interplay between characters, more everything). Maybe throw in elements from other episodes, like the "Out of Gas" flashback of Mal getting his ship.

I personally don't need anything explained, other than the simple question of one solar system or more. If more than one system, we need FTL travel and that opens up a whole can of worms. I hope that it is one solar system with just a dozen or so planets. That makes things real simple, which is how this show ought to be.

BTW - I am a scientist, and up until FF came along, I needed everything in a show like this to be explainable (technobabble or otherwise). That is what really separates science fiction from fantasy (at least in book form). For some reason, I like FF purely for the characters. Go figure...

That's my story and I'm sticking to it...

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SIMON: What happens if they board us?
ZOE: If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins into their clothing
and if we're very very lucky, they'll do it in that order.

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Friday, August 1, 2003 9:27 PM

{BTW - I am a scientist, and up until FF came along, I needed everything in a show like this to be explainable (technobabble or otherwise). For some reason, I like FF purely for the characters. Go figure...}

That's FF's greatest strength. The fact that it's set in space is incidental. Good shows are always character driven, and Joss is bloody good at writing convincing characters. I liked that little aside between Zoe and Wash - can't remember which show.

WASH: But that's science fiction.
ZOE: Honey, you live on a space ship.
WASH: So?

'bout says it all really. Although I'm not a scientist, I've always had a problem with spaceships exploding in great big fireballs. FF is the first show where they've convincingly portrayed a fire on a space ship, and the very nasty consequences of loosing your oxygen that way. I'd like more of the same in a movie. Reality bites.


WASH: But that's science fiction.
ZOE: Honey, you live on a space ship.
WASH: So?

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Saturday, August 2, 2003 9:44 AM

"BTW - I am a scientist, and up until FF came along, I needed everything in a show like this to be explainable (technobabble or otherwise). That is what really separates science fiction from fantasy (at least in book form). For some reason, I like FF purely for the characters. Go figure... "

Amen there. While not a scientist, nor do I play one on TV, I am the same way. With almost every other science fiction program or book.


"my kind of stupid"

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Saturday, August 2, 2003 8:22 PM

I just want more firefly !

I want it to deal with the characters, I heard that The Reavers might be the baddies in the movie - which would be fine !

I just want the movie to be accessable to everyone, who hasn't seen the series. I hope that just by dialogue, the audience will be able to understand the characters that we the ppl who watched the tv series know and love.

I want it to act like a 2 hour standalone episode, maybe some things could be lightly touched upon, but not too much- that it makes the movie to complicated.

I believe in Joss Whedon's ability to write and direct - I just hope the movie gets made. And if it does, more movies or a new tv series.

If a brilliant scifi movie like "Pitch Black" can be made - with great characters, Firefly should work too - especially with Joss in charge !

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Monday, August 4, 2003 2:26 PM

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Originally posted by Taro:

'bout says it all really. Although I'm not a scientist, I've always had a problem with spaceships exploding in great big fireballs. FF is the first show where they've convincingly portrayed a fire on a space ship, and the very nasty consequences of loosing your oxygen that way. I'd like more of the same in a movie. Reality bites.
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While I said previously that I don't need everything explained in Firefly, it WOULD be nice to know that Joss&Co thought of all of the seemingly inconsistent things brought up on this site (ftl drive or not, one sun or more, etc) and just didn't have the time to explain them (or, more likely, didn't feel the need to).

It is really not that hard for a show to be internally consistent – they just have to care about it and make up a series bible, or tome, before the first episode airs. Then give it to all the writers and make sure they follow it. You could argue that science fiction is a lot more meticulous than fantasy, but even in fantasy, you have to be internally consistent. You don’t see Harry Potter learning an incantation for a spell, then later on, using the same words for a different spell. In other words, make up what you want, but just be consistent.

They don’t have to explain everything in boring detail, but please don’t make stuff up as you go along. That will tarnish even the best character-driven series. It is my hope that the Firefly movie will have both believable science and great fiction. That is why they call the genre “science fiction” after all, and I do think it will need both elements to be successful.




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SIMON: What happens if they board us?
ZOE: If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins into their clothing
and if we're very very lucky, they'll do it in that order.

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Monday, August 4, 2003 3:58 PM

Hi all. I am so excited about the movie and hope to get some good Reaver moments. I want to know what Blue Sun really is when the movie comes out.

For those of you who wanted to know about the right and left of libertarianism and other things try taking a look at the new political compass it groups things into four quadrants along an X and Y axsis and makes more sense than a strait line to me anyway.

Here is the link http://www.politicalcompass.org

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Monday, August 4, 2003 4:08 PM

Just wanted to add that the new political compass while better than the tradition political scale is not perfect I would like to see a neutral answer. I also thought you should know where I stand since I posted this.

Economic Left/Right: -5.50
Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.62

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