What would you like to see explained/explored in the FF movie?

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THEOBSOLETEMAN

Thursday, July 31, 2003 10:32 AM

As a rare someone who absolutely loved the oft-maligned Alien Resurrection, which as some here may recall Joss wrote, I trust his ability to write an intelligent and exciting theatrical SF film.

But to give some input on the matter at hand, I want to know more about:

- The Blue Hand Guys, and their connection to the Alliance (which I suspect may be just as subversive to the Alliance as any outright rebels).

- Book's backstory (I suspect a former Alliance officer of high rank, who resigned and entered the monestary when he could no longer live with what he was doing).

- Inara's backstory (She supported the Alliance--so why's she on Mal's ship, when she could be living comfortably?).

- As Anthony said above, a more clear explanation of what sort of universe the show takes place in. No Treknobabble needed, just tell us: One system? Many systems? Another galaxy? FTL drive or not? Just the rudimentary SF basics.

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THEOBSOLETEMAN

Thursday, July 31, 2003 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
Secretly, of course, I want the heavy-handed lefty movie about how the Alliance and the American Empire are the same gorram thing and the terrible cost of mixing commerce and universal government

I don't disagree with you, but it's interesting that you see the show's politics as leftist, as others have commented on what they see as a right-wing, libertarian, anti-government agenda to the show. There was even a link on this site for awhile (it may still be there) to a right-wing website in Texas where the author praised the show's libertarian politics.

But then I guess that brings up the question: Is libertarianism (and anti-authoritarianism) right wing or left wing? Generally, it seems to offend status-quo folks on both sides of the political fence. And certainly the George Bush Republicans are no libertarians--they're practically the Alliance incarnate when it comes to personal freedom.

TARO

Thursday, July 31, 2003 1:04 PM

I'm with you on the explaining the universe thing. All this talk about being on the Rim, what does that actually mean? How many planets have they terraformed? Propulsion systems, fuel, FTL, communications systems, why they were talking about the Reavers having an 'unshielded' ship and that being suicide, plenty to work with there.

More about Inara's story, why she abandoned the House and how she ended up out on the Rim. What can River sense, how much control does she have over her abilities? And definitely Book, who I'm sure is atoning for some serious war crimes.

The tricky part of course is going to be keeping fans happy - giving them something new - and bringing in a new audience. It would be a mistake to rehash the history, you'd bore the uninitiated and the fans alike. Strong story that carries the characters along in its tide, that's what we need.

TRAGICSTORY

Thursday, July 31, 2003 2:02 PM

OK, just as a side note: Who would you like to see as a cameo?

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JOHNNYREB

Thursday, July 31, 2003 5:01 PM

O.k. I would like to see more frontier/western aspect to the story. That is what got me hooked in the first place. Bar fights, shoot outs, horse chases, run-away wagons, etc. As a cameo? I would like to see someone who will be a tipped hat to either genre--Clint Eastwood, Western; Patrick Stewart, SciFi; James Garner, Western; Harrison Ford, SciFi. You get the picture.

Viva Firefly!

STILLSHINY

Thursday, July 31, 2003 5:35 PM

Could you imagine Kevin Spacey as some whacked out guy high up in the Blue Hand ranks. Just spouting "riverisms" while claiming that he's perfectly sane, in fact he's the only sane on the rest of the verse is crazy. Kind of a cross between "Jack from shining", "Brad Pitt in 12 monkeys" & "Crowe in Beautiful mind"

my kind of creepifying..

WHOODAHN

Thursday, July 31, 2003 6:14 PM

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Originally posted by TheObsoleteMan:
- Book's backstory (I suspect a former Alliance officer of high rank, who resigned and entered the monestary when he could no longer live with what he was doing).

I agree with you. I suspect that Book was not the only former high ranking Alliance officer that joined a monestary. I would have liked to seen Book either covertly or openly go to some of his old buddies and use them to help Serenity.

KASUO

Thursday, July 31, 2003 10:21 PM

1) Show how the Sino-Anglo Alliance came to be -- perhaps showing some sort of negotiations going on from several people who look like diplomats from different worlds. Also, show those people who disagree with the formation of the Alliance and the tensions that built up from that.

2) Show some battles, perhaps some space battles between Alliance cruisers and whatever the Independents had (yeah, this is all a special effects orgy but it would be nice to see what happened). Also show what those air tanks looked like at Hera.

3) Perhaps a re-introduction of Serenity's crew, not necessarily what we saw all ready but something new to add to it rather than re-writing it.

3a) Seeing a bit of Mal's life on Shadow.
3b) Showing Simon's work as a surgeon on Osiris and his eventual dealings with the underground group who helped rescue River.
3c) More on River's life at the "academy", including the kinds of experimentation they were performing on her.

4) Show Reaver society (if you can call it that) and how it turned into what it was. For example, showing early settlers who drifted too far or attempted to settle on one of the first terraformed planets that had "problems", perhaps attempts to settle on naturally habitable planets but being completely isolated.

"Let's moon 'em!"

TALRIUS

Friday, August 1, 2003 3:37 AM

One word, Reavers. Not some explination on how they became what they are. Just Reavers. H.P. Lovecraft said it best, "The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown."

DRAKON

Friday, August 1, 2003 11:27 AM

"But then I guess that brings up the question: Is libertarianism (and anti-authoritarianism) right wing or left wing?"

Heinlein said it better than me: "Political tags - such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth - are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire."

This business about left and right are the ashes of a previous epoch, when there existed a class structure, with the left siding with the prols and the right with the monarchs. But both are really who should rule whom, and the new boss is the same as the old boss.

Libertarism does not really fit into either left or right. Both left and right are, in their extreme forms authoritarian governments. Libertarians, in general, just want to be left alone and leave everyone else alone.

"my kind of stupid."

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