Little things you noticed in Serenity
POSTED BY: christhecynic
UPDATED: Monday, January 23, 2006 22:41
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I always thought this was just Rivers mind showing her what kind of things happened on Miranda. I thought her response was more along the lines of trying to get everyone to resist so they wouldn't die. This does illustrate her conection to the Reavers well though.
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QUOTE]I'm thinking especially about two lines. One includes the phrases "they come out of the black, they come when you call". The other is from Ariel -- it's the line about taking Christmas away and leaving only coal. I think these can both be interpreted as referring to her secret knowledge about the Reavers.
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I don't disagree on any particular point.
I always assumed that the line "they come when you call" was something of a warning about the federal marshalls waiting outside.
Not to rain on Joss - but i dont think he even had it figured out that River would have that secret at that point. Who knows.
I think most of her random lines comes from reading someones minds. Not the reavers. Or "quoting" the reavers.
Jayne: All those years of preacher training, getting knocked out by one bounty hunter
Book: Oh, dont get me wrong. I gave him a hell of a fight
Jayne: Epic i'm guessing
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Mr. Universe is paid "30 coin" to betray Mal. Not a long step from 30 pieces of silver.
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While watching "Objects in Space" again I noticed something in the scene where Jubal Early reads the wanted poster for River and Simon. It's printed on transparent plastic and you can read it from the back. This is very small and probably coincidental, but as I paused the DVD on this frame I noted that River's name spelled backwards could conceivably be pronounced "Reaver." I recall seeing somewhere that Joss puts a lot of thought into names, and I think it at least to be an interesting coincidence if nothing else, considering that River is the perfect weapon against them.
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Originally posted by Omelet:
By the way, very funny comment. If it weren't for the damned mood swings, I would have fallen out of my chair. For now, I'm just crying and laughing at the same time.
hehheh...
...'s all part of The Service
glad i could help. BTW, VERY good trick that ...laughin'/cryin' simultaneously thing ...makes me think of today's "Ballard Street," q.v., http://www.comics.com/creators/ballardst/index.html (that's date sensitive - only good for today, ummm... "Friday the 13th") - I couldn't figure out how to include the whole image in this post but... couldn't do it.I DID try to reply yesterday but, for some reason fireflyfans.net simply would not work for me (??) I mean, I could see everyone's posts but, for some reason, it categorically refused to allow me to reply. Sorry...
Always eager to provide The Service so I don't revert into "stupid, inbred stacks of meat"-hood
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Originally posted by Unsardonic:Quote:
Originally posted by Omelet:
By the way, very funny comment. If it weren't for the damned mood swings, I would have fallen out of my chair. For now, I'm just crying and laughing at the same time.
hehheh......'s all part of The Service
glad i could help. BTW, VERY good trick that ...laughin'/cryin' simultaneously thing ...makes me think of today's "Ballard Street," q.v., http://www.comics.com/creators/ballardst/index.html (that's date sensitive - only good for today, ummm... "Friday the 13th") - I couldn't figure out how to include the whole image in this post but... couldn't do it.
I DID try to reply yesterday but, for some reason fireflyfans.net simply would not work for me (??) I mean, I could see everyone's posts but, for some reason, it categorically refused to allow me to reply. Sorry...
Always eager to provide The Service so I don't revert into "stupid, inbred stacks of meat"-hood
Haha. That's a funny pic there, though my mood swings persist. Usually to stop them by others means I usually resort to watching Firefly, specifically Sean Maher, to help me get through this time of the month. Instead of lashing out random anger at people, I'm now sobbing and laughing.
Jayne: Are you saying River's a witch?
Wash: Yes, Jayne, she's a witch. She's had congress with the Beast.
Jayne: She's in Congress?
Wash: How did your brain even learn human speech? I'm just so curious!
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Did anyone notice in Objects In Space, when we briefly see Jayne shifting in his bed, there is a huge honking drool puddle on his pillow?
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Originally posted by chronicthehedgehog:
The Operative is paid "30 coin" to betray Mal. Not a long step from 30 pieces of silver.
You mean Mr. Universe. However IMHO his tone when he says this is clearly sarcastic.
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Originally posted by Omelet:
...though my mood swings persist. Usually to stop them by others means I usually resort to watching Firefly, specifically Sean Maher, to help me get through this time of the month...
Ah... y'know, for an allegedly "perceptive" person, ya'd think I'd have figured out your "good trick" of simultaneous laughing/crying... my sympathies, actually.

If it's any consolation, I have encountered Sean, actually, shopping in my local grocery store (I have mentioned elsewhere I live on the Sunset Strip). It was morning so the store was mainly empty & he was checking out, the only person there. I got in line behind him and... well.. I hadn't recognized him, y'see(?). All I saw was a handsome young man checking out, dressed all in white.
I didn't recognize him because of the hair: it was a big, spiky poof of dry, black hair & I didn't think about it... then he talked &, By Gawd, 'if it isn't Simon Tam,' I thought. So I looked closely at him and, sure enough, it was him - it's just, I guess he doesn't keep that wet, combed-back Simon hair in real life, eh? Anyway, he seemed really shy or reserved to me, like he would be uncomfortable with strangers coming up & recognizing him & introducing themselves, especially as he was in the middle of a complex function... perhaps it had already happened enough to him to make him uncomfortable so, he seemed edgy & I just respected his space & let him do his thing.
Now, since then, I've regretted that reserve on my part - you'd think I could have at least thanked him for bringing us Simon, I realized later... Or perhaps been a little more flip and asked him if he was headed to a "THX-1138" theme party... That was because of the all-white thing: he wore a plush white sweater, white pants & matching white shoes and had a cartful of orchid plants, all blooming with dozens of flowers & every single one of them were white - it was quite a striking image; made me wish for a camera.
I actually did think... "a wedding" or "a funeral" but, a "THX-1138 theme party," would have at least been funny. On the other hand, if it was a funeral, "funny" might have been really uncomfortable, eh? And the possibility of a funeral might have been what was behind his discomfort. Of course, for all I know, that's just how he dresses in civilian life & he happens to like lots of white orchids, who knows(?), all I know is, I still regret not thanking him for bringing us Dr. Tam
freakin' THANK the actors, ya DUDES
, THANK 'EM!! "or your friends will think you're a stupid, inbred stack of meat."
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Just curious if anyone else has noticed this. (If it's been posted, I've missed it.)
In the scene on Miranda when River is reacting to what has happened on the planet and the camera is circling her (chapter 14 starting at 1:16:26 if you have the DVD), right after saying "please get up" she seems to start talking in Chinese but actually says "oh, Sean Maher" when Simon touches her back (1:16:49) and then moves on to Chinese (or at least I think it's Chinese).
Very subtle. Very fun.
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