Has Firefly influenced your takes on pilots of new shows?

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GWEK

Friday, January 13, 2006 2:22 PM

Here's how Firefly has impacted my take on pilots: I don't watch new shows on Fox, because they're just going to be cancelled.

BROWNCOAT1

Friday, January 13, 2006 2:35 PM

Mornin' Sundance.

I haven't seen "Bones" so I can't comment on it. What I can comment on is that Firefly has influenced how I judge tv & what I decide to watch & not watch.

Firefly raised the bar for television as far as I am concerned. Buffy & Angel really didn't influence me that way, so it must be that the concept of Firefly, the writing, and the cast really clicked for me. I have found my taste in shows has changed, becoming more discerning of what I will invest my tv viewing time on.

I have found I watch a lot less tv than I used to before Firefly. Guess you can say that Firefly ruined me for other programming.

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SHIELDMAID

Friday, January 13, 2006 2:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by GWEK:
Here's how Firefly has impacted my take on pilots: I don't watch new shows on Fox, because they're just going to be cancelled.

I read this and promptly startled to laugh so hard I snorked my morning coffee up my nose.

This is SO true!!! It's literally gotten so bad that everytime we see a new show there, if hubby or I says, "Gosh. That might be interesting," the other immediately begins the Cancellation Countdown. How pathetic is THAT?!

Firefly is *absolutely* one of the yardsticks for originality and excellence by which I measure everything else, now.

GWEK

Friday, January 13, 2006 2:54 PM

Since "Firefly", I've given Fox three more chances:

"Tru Calling"
"Point Pleasant"
"The Inside"

Do I need to say anything more?

SUNDANCE

Friday, January 13, 2006 2:56 PM

Mornin' yourself BC1, is it really that early where you are? Shouldn't you be tucked up having pretty frontier dreams by now?

Anyways i think you are right, i definately don't watch as much TV now as i used to before FF, even though i was a late comer and only caught re-runs on Sci fi, it still made some crazy impact on my mind and spirit, which is an impressive task for any person let me tell you!

It was a similar feeling when Buffy finally ended, i didn't know what the hell i was going to do with my time and i knew nothing i ever saw would match up to it, until i saw FF of course - yes i really did pitch in late! I then only bleedin' discovered it had been cancelled, thanks a lot, oh how the TV Gods mocked me! Thank chreeist for DVD is all i can say, happy days live on.

So as a matter of interest, what do you make an effort to watch now?

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JAYRO

Friday, January 13, 2006 3:15 PM

Just a quick thought.

Anyone else think that if Firefly were released as a new show now, it would be given more of a chance by the studios?

The huge success of 'Lost' has shown that slow-burning shows with ensemble casts are suddenly de rigeur. Suddenly the channels are full of new sci-fi/dramas - Threshold and Invasion, for example (and yes, not all of them are much cop). The point is, the very things that F*x counted against Firefly seem now to be back in vogue.

What do y'all think?

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STEALTHGUY

Friday, January 13, 2006 3:31 PM

I would say that Joss Whedon and not just Firefly in general has affected the way I watch TV. I used to be a big fan of a SciFi show that many people have criticized. I am almost embarrassed to say what it was, but it rhymes with Bar Deck Koyager

Anyway, I started watching Buffy since its inception, and I was just blown away by the story telling and dialog (I also liked the music and the girl power theme). I then went back to watch the other show with the higher expectations that Buffy had instilled in me, and that other show didn't seem all that great anymore. The quality of the first 4 or so seasons of Buffy also caused me to be critical of Buffy seasons 6 and 7. They didn't come close to measuring up in my opinion.

Now, I have recently enjoyed Stargate: Atlantis. However, here comes Joss again with the greatness of Firefly, and now I don't enjoy Atlantis as much as I once did. Thanks a lot!!

Ever since Joss opened my eyes with Buffy, I have often thought that most people are missing out because they think they are watching great TV shows, but they just don't know what great TV really is. They need to be Whedonized.

SUNDANCE

Friday, January 13, 2006 3:34 PM

Hey thar, that is a damn fine question and worth a ponder.

Trouble is now we're already at the stage where the sci-fi-esque shows are saturating the market so there may be more heavy fall out rather than less. Also most of the "new" shows out seem to be trying to re-hash tried and tested methods, harking back to the X-files and such but we've kind of been there and done that. It's like before Buffy you probably would never have had shows like Charmed or Alias, Dark Angel etc - everyone likes to jump on that bandwagon and roll with it.

Unfortunately Firefly is in a bit of stick re this as it's entirely new and original and basically in a league of it's own. But that scares people, they like to watch something new, but don't like the challenge of the untested, familiarity is a happy home or some such rot if you get my drift. So in a wordy way i'm saying i'm not sure it would survive along with all the other shows...but what the hell do i know.

I really like Lost, but i love FF why is one hugely successful and the other not? I just don't get it - does it have something to do with marketing and the "who you know" not "what you know" scenario. More to the point, will we ever get over the fact that we woz robbed??

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QUEENOFTHENORTH

Friday, January 13, 2006 4:08 PM

Yes, Joss Whedon and my own brain have almost entirely ruined tv for me. The only things I can watch with any regularity anymore are animes (because they have episodic story lines and funny stuff just like Joss shows), Supernatural, which is actually pretty good, and Young Blades. The last one is a Canadian made show about the next generation of Musketeers. The main character is a girl posing as a guy so she can be a Musketeer. Anyway, it's absolutely hilarious and is almost like supernatural musketeers, cuz they have to deal with cults and magic and stuff. It's really good.

But other than that, I can't stand to watch anything else on TV anymore. Even the new Simpsons eps suck nowadays. It's very disappointing.

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Friday, January 13, 2006 4:54 PM

I am in the same camp as Browncoat1. "Firefly" really influenced how I watch television. Before "Firefly" I never really paid much attention to who was at the wheel, so to speak. The Jossverse has been educational as well as entertaining (over, over, two-shot). I find myself watching fewer shows more intently, if that makes sense. I am also a lot more forgiving about pilot episodes if they are followed by something decent. You never know what was going on behind the scenes. Though I have to admit my husband and I are frequently guilty of asking each other, "Now how would the good folks at Mutant Enemy have handled this?" when we are watching something that isn't fulfilling its promise.

Before Serenity I had never followed the production of a film. I just new LotR, or whatever, was coming and waited for it. Now I find myself looking to see what particular writers and directors are up to.

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