Has Firefly influenced your takes on pilots of new shows?

POSTED BY: Sundance
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SUNDANCE

Friday, January 13, 2006 9:37 AM

Phew! that was a long'un! Morning all hope everyone's settled in to 2006 and counting down until pay day, hot damn i'm broke!

Anywho a thought occured to me last night whilst watching the pilot episode of Bones on Sky One. I think it was the pilot, as there was much much much exposition and rubbish dialogue to help any poor old thickys sat at home trying to read between the oh-so thin plot lines and characterisations!

Yep i thought it was a bit rubbish, even with the exciting prescence of David B who is always a good watch, but his geeky partner i didn't like and the writing wasn't that good either. Also what's with the worlds most enormous warehouse to work in as well?? If anybody else saw this they know what i mean, how expensive must it be to work in that lab with hug lighting rigs and absolutely ridiculously massive light boxes full of "bones"? Sorry if you haven't seen the pilot (if it was that) then you won't know what the hell i'm ranting for so i'll get back to my point!

I sat there and thought, this is not that good, but what if it could've been better but the big chiefs upstairs made the creators make it rubbish to suit their intended audience a-la Firefly and the Train Job. Don't get me wrong i really liked that episode but Firefly was not originally presented as it was intended, so has this happened with other shows?

I have discovered Firefly impacting on my brain patterns in all sorts of strange ways, this being one of them - but that's kinda cool - has anyone else found themselves giving shows a more open mind after the tragedy that was Fox programming?

So i'm giving Bones another shot to see if it improves, although i have to be honest i have low hopes for it, it seems like a mixture of Cold Case and CSI (which i both love) which is a shame, hate to see good talent wasted on rrrubish writing!

Be safe, be seen!
s-rant
xxx

"Who would want a motorised rock?
Another motorised rock?"

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Friday, January 13, 2006 11:02 AM

Totally.

It's very difficult to watch bad TV when you've been watching good TV. I find it very difficult to watch most of the other dramas out there (mostly cop shows). And don't get me started on Hex! Absolutely brutal! And all the worse for the actors and writers claiming it was "much more adult and less silly than Buffy." Spoken like a bunch of wannabes who never watched the show...

SUNDANCE

Friday, January 13, 2006 11:11 AM

Howdy do!

Yes the rubbish that was Hex, it was truly silly and not at all grown up, another brit disappointment! Ahh the worst form of defence - slating the very show that made it's creation possible (what demons and chicks - surely an original idea!) How grown up of them!

But as you say let's NOT get into that debate, no doubt there is a fan out there somewhere and when we find them, we will have to destroy them and erase the horribleness forever!
xx

"Who would want a motorised rock?
Another motorised rock?"

HAWK

Friday, January 13, 2006 12:42 PM

I never used to place so much emphasis on character and sense of humour in my genre TV before Firefly!

This is why I find it hard to get into shows with staid characterisations and archetypes nowadays. Damn you Firefly, and damn the lot of YOU!

You at home, dripping melty cheese, or cheeses, onto the keyboard, spreading your poisonous love and affection! You have made me one of your own!

(jumps out of an open window)

(discovers we're on the fifteenth floor. Damn you Firefly!)

SUNDANCE

Friday, January 13, 2006 12:53 PM

Nooo! what a tragic waste! Unless of course you were collected safely with Wash's careful piloting moments after you leaped (or is it lept??) into oblivion!

I would've followed but i'm a bit busy today, things to do, cheese to melt etc etc.

Do you have the eyes of a Hawk? Ears of the Wolf, or Speed of a Puma?? I guess the first judging by your name!

Be careful out there and mind those ledges!
x

"Who would want a motorised rock?
Another motorised rock?"

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Friday, January 13, 2006 12:59 PM

Actually, that reminds me that I was ruined at a very early age because of a cartoon I watched called Mysterious Cities of Gold. Brilliantly written, beautiful characters and a rip roaring adventure story. Also my introduction to sci-fi. After I watched that I kept expecting ~every~ cartoon to have a coherent story and developing characters. Not something that happened a lot in '80s cartoons!

SUNDANCE

Friday, January 13, 2006 1:06 PM

Excellent - at last i'm not alone! I absolutely loved Cities of Gold (hums theme tune "ahhahahah, someday we will find the citi-es of golllld!") happy happy memories! I watched every episode i think, thank you bbc broom cupboard! It seemed to be on for ever and ever but the story was so interesting that you didn't want to miss them getting to the end of their journey! But i think i might have - damnation! What happened in the end, was it the bit with robots in the mountain? It's all a blur now....

It was definately leagues ahead of all other cartoons esp the awful Ulysses 31 (??) and Belle and Sebastian (large mouths), also loved Dungeons and Dragons (but who doesn't ;)) except when they went back home and everything was back to normal - rrrrubish!

Thanks for keeping the dream alive!
x

"Who would want a motorised rock?
Another motorised rock?"

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Friday, January 13, 2006 1:21 PM

Yes! Someone else out there!!!

The ending had the Olmeks, an alien looking race who wanted the children's DNA because they were infertile. They had radiation technology, but it had altered them.

You also got to meet Esteban's father.

There's a DVD available, made by a fan. I'll try and get the details for you. It's free as far as I know. He gets very cranky when people try to sell it on ebay! It even has Philip Scofield singing the theme tune when the last episode was screened! It's priceless! And pretty good quality too.

SUNDANCE

Friday, January 13, 2006 1:33 PM

Hurrah - that makes 3 of us then! Ah yeh the aliens in the mountain (is that right?), bit of a heavy story line for a children's cartoon, and we met his father blast, i definately don't remember that! I really need to see that if you can pass on details that'd be great thank u!

Seeing as we're taking a punt down memory lane i don't suppose you can remember the name of the Aussie sci-fi teen show with Todd Landers from Neighbours in it can you? He was an alien with a spaceship travelling in time or something? I really liked that show - so much i can't remember it's name, but it was good. Oh yeh and is it just me or is Jim Robinson now taking over American TV?? How weird!

"Who would want a motorised rock?
Another motorised rock?"

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Friday, January 13, 2006 2:01 PM

The Tommorow Children or Tomorrow People, can't remember which. I know there was a British show in the 70's with the same name, but that's all I know. I saw a few eps.

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