Serenity may fly again?

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TANSTAAFL28

Thursday, January 12, 2006 12:40 PM

After spending time in Europe and elsewhere, I've come to think my countrymen are far too uptight to tolerate. Perhaps my English heritage is shining through on this point (I also happen to covet Newcastle Nut Brown Ale as "mother's milk").

KIBBSTER

Thursday, January 12, 2006 12:48 PM

This is good news indeed!
Lovely to see Serenity is doing what was hoped with the DVD sales.

I have bought as much Firefly/Serenity stuff as I can lay my hands on in the hope that my money will talk in the only language suits understand.

I know three extra people that will be going to see any Serenity sequel that missed the original showing at the flicks.
I'm sure lots of others here know new Browncoats too that will be going to support any future movies.

TANSTAAFL28

Thursday, January 12, 2006 1:06 PM

You have obviously thought this out greatly. We need to send a message to Fox (as I suspect they still own the rights) that we are this serious. We need to do so just as the fans did in '67 and '68 to keep TOS on the air. I think you've spelled out our requests/demands pretty well. See what the gang thinks...

LYNNEC

Thursday, January 12, 2006 5:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Khei:
Fox Doth Blow!

Yea, verily!

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DIAVO

Thursday, January 12, 2006 6:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by WildWeasel:
Do yall think that perhaps a video game could emerge from the Firefly verse that could generate revenue and and enough new fan interest to help get Serenity back in the black? I loved Microsoft's freelancer, and they're making games out of everything these days, and movies from games.

A game mixing WC Privateer flight with on-planet mission selects of Jedi Academy and on-planet towns and interactions as nice as TES:Morrowind would rule not just from our point of view but from *any* gamers'!

I posted in this thread:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=17&t=6091
Some tweaks to an open-source Wing Commander Privatter game (extended into the WC Universe with more ships, etc) to [role] play more like Firefly.

--Diavo

IMPERIALKNIGHT

Thursday, January 12, 2006 7:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by tanstaafl28:
You have obviously thought this out greatly. We need to send a message to Fox (as I suspect they still own the rights) that we are this serious. We need to do so just as the fans did in '67 and '68 to keep TOS on the air. I think you've spelled out our requests/demands pretty well. See what the gang thinks...

FOX is a many-headed hydra, the F*X Network that cancelled Firefly is not FOX Productions who we will almost certainly be dealing with over the issue of copyright for bringing the series back. Others may know more background into this but several of Joss' previous projects have had FOX on the label that were never even shown on F*X Network without copyright infringement litigation arriving on their doorstep. As long as we move cautiously (and I think ANTIREAVERS step of enlisting the aid of a copyright lawyer is a wise step), pledge enough money, and get Joss and Co. to sign on, we may be flying back into the black sooner than we think.

KERRETOM

Thursday, January 12, 2006 9:21 PM

I may be stepping on pins and needles here, but do we even know if Joss HASN'T negotiated another TV timeslot? When you think about it, these things take time. First of all, he has to make sure all the characters will be able to play their parts! The Baldwin is currently on another TV show! It might be a few years before all of the characters are available! He also has to shoot a few episodes, just like when trying to get a book published, you have to submit a few chapters, and submit them to major networks. And let's face it, SCI FI isn't going to get Firefly back on its feet again. It just doesn't produce enough revenue to get $2 million per episode! We'd need a major corporation, like FOX, ABC, or CBS. THIS TAKES TIME!

We MIGHT get lucky enough to have the series back in mid 2007, but realistically, we're looking at early 2008 IF the show ever comes back to the small screen. Joss has already SAID that he doubts that it ever will. He said, "Serenity will probably fly on the silver screen from here on out."

We need to face it. We have movies to look forward too, for now. Maybe, if the sequel to Serenity gains enough revenue, it'll return to the small screen. And as for us BUILDING a corporation, BUYING shares, or all of that, it's a wastefull effort. The money your AntiReaver friend has CAN'T EVEN BUY ONE EPISODE! To even propose to ANY network, you need THREE OR FOUR.

Sorry to burst everybody's collective bubbles, but just because a proposal is long, doesn't make it good. It's unrealistic and WILL NEVER HAPPEN. I'm sorry, but we can't even get 100,000 people to sign a freakin' petition for HBO to pick it up, much less the amount of people needed to buy a corporation.

IMPERIALKNIGHT

Friday, January 13, 2006 7:27 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by kerretom:
I may be stepping on pins and needles here, but do we even know if Joss HASN'T negotiated another TV timeslot? When you think about it, these things take time. First of all, he has to make sure all the characters will be able to play their parts! The Baldwin is currently on another TV show! It might be a few years before all of the characters are available! He also has to shoot a few episodes, just like when trying to get a book published, you have to submit a few chapters, and submit them to major networks. And let's face it, SCI FI isn't going to get Firefly back on its feet again. It just doesn't produce enough revenue to get $2 million per episode! We'd need a major corporation, like FOX, ABC, or CBS. THIS TAKES TIME!

We MIGHT get lucky enough to have the series back in mid 2007, but realistically, we're looking at early 2008 IF the show ever comes back to the small screen. Joss has already SAID that he doubts that it ever will. He said, "Serenity will probably fly on the silver screen from here on out."

We need to face it. We have movies to look forward too, for now. Maybe, if the sequel to Serenity gains enough revenue, it'll return to the small screen. And as for us BUILDING a corporation, BUYING shares, or all of that, it's a wastefull effort. The money your AntiReaver friend has CAN'T EVEN BUY ONE EPISODE! To even propose to ANY network, you need THREE OR FOUR.

Sorry to burst everybody's collective bubbles, but just because a proposal is long, doesn't make it good. It's unrealistic and WILL NEVER HAPPEN. I'm sorry, but we can't even get 100,000 people to sign a freakin' petition for HBO to pick it up, much less the amount of people needed to buy a corporation.

Your judgments are based on misconceptions and weaknesses not supported by facts.

1. 2 million USD an episode is simply crazy and demands a cold and forceful inquiry to justify it. This extreme figure is reducible at least in part explained by a change in venue to Vancover where Scifi does most if not ALL their Scifi (as well as serving as the hometown of Jewel Staite(Kailee) and possibly Nathan Fillion(Capt. 'Tightpants') who also lives in Canada). This reduces the cost in two very significant ways: one, the cost of keeping the door open, the crew fed, and set built and maintained in Canada is FAR, FAR less than the Hollywoodesque excesses of L.A. and for doing important show business in Canada has raised the prospect I am told from those that live there of government subsidies to defray operating and/or material expenses; second, Scifi has CGI scripters and computer modelers who aren't used to buying up pleasure palaces on Manhattan Island every two payperiods. Give me a break...Firefly principal focus was always on character development, interaction, plot, and story-driven conflicts not recreating Star Wars universe with every episode. Special effects where present are often far less and more muted than Battle Star Galactica and Scifi affords that plenty with ease and grace (Universal OWNS Scifi - consider that too). Aside from a fixed cost in constructing the set and requisite props and sundry gear as well as maintaining the set there is no significant equipment related costs. The actors and actresses on staff weren't A list famous and so can not demand multi-million dollar salaries. Advertising and Marketing were literally non-existent and so no costs are justifiable in this regard. Joss himself may have commanded a respectable wage but he is certainly no corrupt politician or the typical multi-national Corporate tycoon to add up to that ridiculous figure. CGI scripting and computer modeling simply is *NOT* THAT excessive or so obscenely difficult yet legions of them were utilized - why? for what? What did we get aside from a few shots comparable to Babylon 5; maybe even less shots than that. Transportation? It is true that Nathan Fillion and Jewel Staite lived in Canada prior to the show but they simply wouldn't want Lear luxury jet liners ala Enron

FOURBARRELL

Friday, January 13, 2006 11:24 PM

Found this on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_(film) Sequel rumors

Fans of Firefly had hoped that if Serenity were successful, it might lead either to a revival of the television series or a film franchise. The former was always unlikely, since Fox still owns the Firefly television rights. Fans' hopes for further theatrical films appear to have been partially dashed by Serenity's poor box office showing. However, on December 1, 2005, IGN Filmforce reported that Universal had expressed an interest in making a Serenity TV movie for broadcast on the Sci Fi Channel (which is owned by Universal), and eventual DVD sale. It is expected that commissioning of a television sequel would be contingent on strong DVD sales of Serenity.[10] It should be noted that Joss Whedon, in response to the many rumors and speculations, has always said that nothing will be decided until the DVD sales are known.

CMOTD

Saturday, January 14, 2006 7:39 PM

A TV movie!? NOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Takes more than combat gear to make a man
Takes more than a license for a gun
Confront your enemies, avoid them when you can
A gentleman will walk but never run

-Sting, An Englishman in New York

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