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Chances for more Firefly as compared to Star Trek

POSTED BY: Sirvec
UPDATED: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 23:02
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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 7:51 PM

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Originally posted by CBY:
Classical sci-fi as I see it:

- Plays in Space, on other planets or a futuristic earth, not on a normal earth or island
- Features interesting, spaceships, gimmicks, new technology
- creates a unique, believable universe with it's own rules and societies.

...and so forth. In other words: For me Sci-Fi is about the technological future and adventures in space, not about what could happen tomorrow in my neighbor's garden or about a bunch a poeple stranded on an island.

Stargate, Galactica, Babylon 5, Star Trek, Farscape - this is Sci-Fi for me, certainly not Smallville.

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For the sake of debate I've got to say Smallville counts. Don't get me wrong I don't like the show and I hate what the WB has done to the mythos of Superman, turning it into freak of the week but we are talking about an alien who came to our would after his planet went boom. Most people don't think of it that way but it's on par with Alien Nation only on a small scale (one alien as compared to as aforementioned a nation of them) and that show was defiantly classical sci-fi.

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CBY
Wednesday, January 11, 2006 7:58 PM

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Originally posted by Sirvec:
Most people don't think of it that way but it's on par with Alien Nation only on a small scale (one alien as compared to as aforementioned a nation of them) and that show was defiantly classical sci-fi.



As I said earlier this is a bulky and difficult discussion and frankly I don't want to argue about it here. This thread is about the continuation of our beloved 'verse, let's keep it in that direction

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 8:43 PM

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Originally posted by CBY:
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Originally posted by Sirvec:
Most people don't think of it that way but it's on par with Alien Nation only on a small scale (one alien as compared to as aforementioned a nation of them) and that show was defiantly classical sci-fi.



As I said earlier this is a bulky and difficult discussion and frankly I don't want to argue about it here. This thread is about the continuation of our beloved 'verse, let's keep it in that direction

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To True To True. Sorry. It's sad when this is my thread and I've taken it completely of subject . Your right this thread is about reminding fans that were going strong and that there's no reason why our verse should end now as long as were willing to fight for. Thanks CBY for getting us back on track.

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 9:16 PM

But on subject (per your original post), I do think there are valid comparisons between the situation Star Trek found itself in in the late 1970's with a cancelled TV series, a cancelled cartoon series, and a film that did lukewarm business at the box office (and this was in the day before DVD sales and rentals could keep a movie from losing money). I think I could validly argue that Star Wars had as much to do with Trek's newfound popularity as did anything. Lucas's films found a huge untapped audience in that, prior to his films, Science Fiction was a cold and often distant genre that rarely appealed to people outside of a select group. This was the environment that Trek tapped into in the early 80's and this why in a very real sense the situations are not at all alike despite outwardly appearing so.

The bad part about it is that Firefly has a transcending appeal that I think would make it a huge hit beyond the realm of science fiction fans in much the way that both Star Wars and the early Star Trek films did. My wife loves the show, but she hates SciFi (most of it). It's a funny, well written, endearing show with characters you not only like but are instantly attracted to and want to know more about. I never saw Firefly in it's original run and can recall seeing only one short snip-it about the show. I also don't recall seeing any Serenity teasers or trailers on television. My point is there is so much science fiction available today it made no sense not to try to market this in a more mainstream way.

But that's neither here nor there I guess. I too hope the show can recreate Trek's come-back-from-the-dead success (and from the looks of it, Trek needs to come back from the dead a second time).

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 11:02 PM

The truth is that anything is possible as it has been done before. If we really want something in this world we all have the capabilities to go and get it if we really want it. If we really want firefly to re-exsist or another Serenity movie to be made, then it is up to us to get the word out. How creative are we, I realize that it took years, but chances are we may still be here in a few years debating the same thing and have done nothing to procure its return. This world is full of the negative who will tell you it can't be done and won't be done. If you listen to then and join them, then you are right, but if you listen to yourself and others of positve light, then you are right too. There are no guarantees through hard work, but I would rather try and fail, knowing that at least I gave it my all, rather than to just give up and never really knowing what if. I believe in another movie, with the same actors...if firefly were to return in another five years, who would be in it and would we really want it with different actors or a spin-off? I'm not so sure...

Stay shiny everyone......

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