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Chances for more Firefly as compared to Star Trek

POSTED BY: Sirvec
UPDATED: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 23:02
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Monday, January 9, 2006 5:59 PM

After reading so many negative threads about the supposed end of Firefly & Serenity I felt I had to share some incites that I, and a few other browncoats seem to realize. This has all happened before with another well known, all be it, ran into the ground Sci-Fi series "Star Trek".

Look, if history repeats it's self, as I'm told it dose, maybe we have a better chance then we think at feasting on more content from our favorite verse. Star Trek TOS was canceled early because of poor rating and studio mismanagement same as Firefly except for the episode count. (Side note: How crazy shiny would it have been to get 79 episodes of Firefly ) It Had a cast of unknowns much like Firefly. Because of fan support the show got a movie that wasn't well received to anyone other than the fans, again much like our beloved. And now for the glimpse into the bright and shiny future it got 9 more movies and 5 spin off series counting the animated series because of it's devoted fans. Allot of this new content was unadulterated crap, however the point is the fans won. It took years but they got what they wanted.

These days we have it better than them because we have the internet with forums like this were fans can gather, conventions are common and well funded, we have a creator in Joss who's not willing to give up, and examples of those shows and there fans that have already accomplished what were still fighting for. So don't give up we have new fans coming in every day. Best of all It has happened before and IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN!!!

Please add any other similarities and details (I know there's more) I missed thx.

"Ta ma duh!"-Mal

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Monday, January 9, 2006 6:21 PM

I made a similar observation. I became a "Trekkie" when I was 10. The show had already been cancelled and I was a toddler when it first aired. Then, we were the first people on my block to get cable (cable was 5 channels back then. yup. 5!). They showed the reruns on some Milwaukee station and it aired at 3:00pm...just after school.

It was so funny having a livingroom packed with 10 year old boys and 1 girl (me) watching William Shatner overact. (I LOVE IT!!!)

After we watched a couple of episodes, we started "playing" Star Trek. My friend Rick (R.I.P.) was always Spock because his ears were kind of pointy...plus he was a science nerd. I was Uhura, even though my complection was not right. She was the only girl on the cast who wasn't annoying.

We made Tri-corders by taking our little brothers' building block and pounding different colored thumb tacks into the flat side. The little brothers got to be aliens or Red Shirts :D

Does this mean that some day some kid will be toting around a stick with some old computer parts tied to it and calling it Vera? We can only hope.

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Monday, January 9, 2006 6:30 PM

Thanks UNREGISTEREDCOMPANION I glad someone else feels the same way. Plus this is the first thread I've ever wrote and I'm just glad someone wrote a reply. And you're right how great would it be to see my future kids playing in a cardboard box with Serenity written across the side


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Monday, January 9, 2006 7:23 PM

Shameless bump. I just really want to get other browncoats views on this and maybe spread a little joy and hope to other die hard fans. Sorry for the cheat just don't want this thread to get buried to soon.

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Monday, January 9, 2006 7:45 PM

Yeah, I think the comparison is relevant.

Though we are living in a different time from when Star Trek: TOS first aired. Perhaps there is too much sci-fi around now? (Oh-oh, I'm going to get flamed! )

It could be argued that Star Trek: The Motion Picture was partly greenlit by the sudden wave of enthusiasm for sci-fi generated by the huge success of Star Wars. Studios saw the potential, and the chance to coin it at the box office, and jumped on the band-rocket.

Whereas now, in a world where every other film has a $stupid FX budget (I'm talking to you, George), genuine quality finds itself drowning in the morass of the average (I'm talking to you, Fantastic Four).

Good post, Sirvec. Let's see what everyone else thinks!

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Monday, January 9, 2006 8:09 PM

I agree, they are a good comparison.
I myself didn't get too see firefly on TV due to A. i worked on the night that it was on and B. i never heard anything about it till after it was taken off the air. But i am 23 and can't tell you how many times i have been through the StarTrek TOS and most of its later versions. But Firefly has something i cant get away from and i dont want too for that matter :) I can say Firefly is in my blood now and i'm in for the long haul. and if we got to wait another 10 years for a bit more from the Master Joss then that is how it is, and i will be waiting. but fingers crossed; it will be less time than it took for star trek to come again.

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Monday, January 9, 2006 8:43 PM

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Originally posted by Jayro:
Yeah, I think the comparison is relevant.

Though we are living in a different time from when Star Trek: TOS first aired. Perhaps there is too much sci-fi around now? (Oh-oh, I'm going to get flamed! )

It could be argued that Star Trek: The Motion Picture was partly greenlit by the sudden wave of enthusiasm for sci-fi generated by the huge success of Star Wars. Studios saw the potential, and the chance to coin it at the box office, and jumped on the band-rocket.

Whereas now, in a world where every other film has a $stupid FX budget (I'm talking to you, George), genuine quality finds itself drowning in the morass of the average (I'm talking to you, Fantastic Four).

Good post, Sirvec. Let's see what everyone else thinks!

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You make a great point JAYRO Star Trek the Motion Picture was riding the coattails of Close Encounters and Star Wars ( back when that franchise was worth two damns ). Before those movies and others like Alien and 2001 there was no mainstream quality ( see the word quality gets rid off movies like Battle Beyond the Stars, yikes that was bad! ) Sci-Fi so the public was starved for new blood.

Now like westerns in the 50s, 60s, and 70s Sci-Fi has flooded the market however unlike westerns (which are making a come back) I don't think the market is fed up with Sci-Fi just yet or in the mind set of Hollywood there still blood to be drawn from that turnip!! The real saving grace Serenity has is it something new. Unlike so much of Hollywood it's a new verse to explore not one that been exploited, strip mined, and raped into oblivion. ( Sorry mini rant and rave took over there.)

Fortunately for us instead of aliening fans by giving them crap Joss has given us quality (there's that word again). Because of that we want more and new fans who are just getting stared want more. And with the number of fans still growing daily it fills my heart with joy and hope the same way it did with early trekies as they marched on.

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Monday, January 9, 2006 9:23 PM

No offence, but have you guys concidered the current state of the Star Trek franchise?

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Monday, January 9, 2006 10:11 PM

First, the Star Trek franchise is older than at least half the people on this board. Of course, it's getting a bit decrepit.

I can only hope that our 'verse is around long enough for me to get tired of it.

The Firefly fanbase is only growing. People are not becoming non-Firefly fans. People, like me, are becomimg addicted Firefly fans who want more. And have money. We are just now finding out about it.

Lets face it. Firefly is good. It's art. It's beyond SciFi.

Dharmagal, a new fan who wrote a shiney intro on another thread, but nobody saw it

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Monday, January 9, 2006 10:30 PM

Could you point me in the direction of that intro? :)

Thats the bad thing about this type of board. Its burried after one day.

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