SciFi Wire reports Joss says 'No more Firefly'

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GELASSENHEIT

Monday, January 9, 2006 7:45 PM

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I read that Firefly never actually happened.

i also heard rumors that Joss Whedon is a fictional person; someone studio made him up to sell tv shows.

Gelassenheit means Serenity

RIAN

Monday, January 9, 2006 7:47 PM

I find Joss' words to be very reassuring. All we need is patience...and money...

What I wonder about: when do we know if the DVD sells well? I understand that the USA are the most important place in that aspect(= biggest audience)...yet Serenity/Firefly wins fans from all over the world. Like, daily.

I'm from Germany and nodobdy even knows a release date for the DVD. Sigh.

JAYRO

Monday, January 9, 2006 7:49 PM

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Originally posted by Gelassenheit:
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I read that Firefly never actually happened.

i also heard rumors that Joss Whedon is a fictional person; someone studio made him up to sell tv shows.

Gelassenheit means Serenity

Couldn't be true - or why would they keep cancelling him?!

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CARTOON

Monday, January 9, 2006 10:10 PM

Maybe I'm treading on thin ice, here, but...

Let's just assume that some network wakes up, gets a full dose of sanity, and decides they want another TV series from the "Firefly/Serenity" verse.

Let's just assume that Joss goes berserk and doesn't want to be involved.

Even though "Firefly" was Joss's brainchild, it can go on (dare I say it?) without Joss...

"Star Trek" survived Roddenberry. "Firefly" could likewise survive without Joss's input.

(I'm not sure, but he didn't even write a majority of the episodes, did he? Off hand, does anyone know how many episodes he actually wrote?)

SIMONWHO

Monday, January 9, 2006 10:13 PM

Actually I thought TNG improved quite a bit after Gene's departure. Doesn't mean he wasn't a genius but...

CARTOON

Monday, January 9, 2006 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by SimonWho:
Actually I thought TNG improved quite a bit after Gene's departure. Doesn't mean he wasn't a genius but...

Personally, other than the original series, I probably liked "Voyager" the best of the lot. And "Voyager" came years after Roddenberry's death.

WILLOWSKYLOR

Monday, January 9, 2006 10:32 PM

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Originally posted by cartoon:
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Originally posted by SimonWho:
Actually I thought TNG improved quite a bit after Gene's departure. Doesn't mean he wasn't a genius but...

Personally, other than the original series, I probably liked "Voyager" the best of the lot. And "Voyager" came years after Roddenberry's death.

i hate voyager... Deep space 9 was the best... any whay back on topic...
i don't think that firefly/ serenity could be the same without joss

STAKETHELURK

Monday, January 9, 2006 10:59 PM

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Originally posted by Cartoon:
Even though "Firefly" was Joss's brainchild, it can go on (dare I say it?) without Joss...

"Star Trek" survived Roddenberry. "Firefly" could likewise survive without Joss's input.

(I'm not sure, but he didn't even write a majority of the episodes, did he? Off hand, does anyone know how many episodes he actually wrote?)

All together, Joss wrote or co-wrote six episodes of “Firefly,” more than any other of the series writers: “Serenity, Parts I & II” (counts as two eps), “The Train Job” (with Tim Minear), “Our Mrs. Reynolds,” “The Message” (with Tim Minear), and “Objects in Space.” (Tim Minear comes in second, with four written or co-written episodes).

Additionally, as executive producer, Whedon was heavily involved in the writing of other episodes. Besides conceiving the overall seasonal arc, Joss also came up with the initial ideas for most of the episodes. Here’s some snippets from interviews with Joss & Tim about the episode “Jaynestown,” where they comment on how unusual it was that the episode was pitched by Ben Edlund, rather than Whedon.

Joss: “Very few ideas are actually pitched to me. I tend to come up with them myself or in concert with Tim or Marti Noxon or David Greenwalt. Or I tend to come in with at least some idea of, “You know, I think we need to feel scared. I want the insecurity of....” It’s usually a process of developing the idea from something I’ve pitched out.”

Tim: “Usually it’s Joss who comes up with the basic idea.”

And besides helping in the initial pitch, Joss often does uncredited rewrites, usually firming up the dialogue (though in some cases the episode’s writer, pressed for time, would have him write one or more entire scenes, again without credit). I don’t know the specifics for “Firefly,” but on “Buffy” and “Angel,” the writers said that nine times out of ten, when a fan compliments them on a particular line of dialogue in one of their eps, it turns out it was a line Joss had added.

Joss Whedon’s level of involvement in his shows is surprisingly vast; any ‘verse series without him would lose much of what made “Firefly” and “Serenity” great. And I wouldn’t want to watch any ‘verse series that he completely disavowed, because he probably had some damn good reasons for not getting involved! Star Trek may have survived without Roddenberry, but GR was (I believe) much less involved in TNG, and besides, what else could the show do after his death? As long as Joss is alive and kickin’, he has to be involved if I’m gonna watch it.

FREERADICAL42

Monday, January 9, 2006 11:15 PM

Trust the media to completely distort what he is saying there.

All he said is that it won't be the same as Firefly. Okay, sure. It won't be. We knew that.

"See, morbid and creepifying, I got no problem with, long as she does it quiet-like."

CLJOHNSTON108

Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:05 AM

Y'know, it's funny...

I went into my local 20/20 Video, where they had a whole shelf of Serenity behind the counter, and asked, "So how's Serenity moving?"

The guy said, "Like crazy!"

"WOW!"

"Well, it was huge hit in the theaters, wasn't it?"

"Naw, man. Nobody went to see it. They were all waiting for the DVD!"

"Huh."

"It's so sad, because Whedon had a $50 million budget, he came in about ten mil under that, critics raved about it, but people were saying that only, like, five or ten people were in the theater when they went to see it, so the movie only took in around 25 mil."

"Now that's just screwy!"

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